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MSE News: 5p bag charge to include smaller stores
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The 5p carrier bag charge is set to be extended to smaller stores under plans to tackle a 'throwaway culture' in a 25-year environment plan being published later this week...
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Just ban them completely. I use fabric eco-bags.0
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Just ban them completely. I use fabric eco-bags.
I completely agree. There should be no need for the 'one use' bags if everybody accepted that we are strangling the planet with plastic and took their own bags when shopping.
There are plenty of fold up ones that you can slip in your pocket if carrying them around is an issue.0 -
I completely agree. There should be no need for the 'one use' bags if everybody accepted that we are strangling the planet with plastic and took their own bags when shopping.
There are plenty of fold up ones that you can slip in your pocket if carrying them around is an issue.
Even when I was at school, I'd re-use plastic bags for football boots/rugby boots, taking extra stuff in with me etc.
But better off without them. Even brown paper bags like in the US would be better than the plastic.0 -
Paper bags cannot be re-used as much as plastic, recycling can be compromised because of mixed materials (glue, handles) and they produce harmful gases during production and decomposition.
While they don't get ingested by or strangle wildlife they are not some ideal green alternative to plastic.0 -
Sadly the 5p charge in more stores is not really going to put shoppers off and agree it would be a good idea to get rid of them (or replace for paper bags).
As that is not going to happen, the charge per bag should be increased and maybe introduce a scheme to return carrier bags (bit like returning glass bottles in years gone by) where you get rewarded ie: a couple of pence, 5p or 10p per bag in the form of a shopping voucher.
I am sure the youngsters would be up for that and likely to pick a bag up in the the street if they spotted one blowing around.0 -
Even brown paper bags like in the US would be better than the plastic.
That depends on what your criteria are.
Paper bags use more energy to manufacture and transport than plastic ones.
Supermarket paper bags tend to be single use, whereas plastic bags can be reduced as bin liners.
Paper bags sent to landfill will biodegrade anaerobically, producing methane, which is four times more damaging to the atmosphere than CO2.
If plastic bags are disposed of properly, they are better than paper.
And the amount of plastic in "single use" carrier bags is miniscule, compared to the amount of plastic packaging used by supermarkets.0 -
This is a duplicate thread.
See https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5772832
Shouldn't have been started. Should be merged.0 -
That depends on what your criteria are.
Paper bags use more energy to manufacture and transport than plastic ones.
Supermarket paper bags tend to be single use, whereas plastic bags can be reduced as bin liners.
Paper bags sent to landfill will biodegrade anaerobically, producing methane, which is four times more damaging to the atmosphere than CO2.
If plastic bags are disposed of properly, they are better than paper.
And the amount of plastic in "single use" carrier bags is miniscule, compared to the amount of plastic packaging used by supermarkets.
But we're not allowed to use plastic bags as bin liners, haven't done for years. Dustmen won't take it.
I've always said charging 5p for a bag is counterproductive when you're putting so much plastic packaging in the bag.0 -
But we're not allowed to use plastic bags as bin liners, haven't done for years. Dustmen won't take it.
I've always said charging 5p for a bag is counterproductive when you're putting so much plastic packaging in the bag.
You can't normally put your mixed recycling inside a plastic bag, but I've never heard of a council that says you can't put plastic bags into your residual waste.
Which council is it?0 -
(bit like returning glass bottles in years gone by) .
I can remember the days when we returned the empties but I wonder how it could work today. Then the deliveries from Corona were on Corona's lorry in a wooden crate, the driver was employed by Corona and all came direct from the factory and the empties went back to the same factory.
Today the transport industry is centered around deliveries (on shrink wrapped pallets - none of which is intended for reuse) from factories to a central hub and then mixed loads to supermarkets with no facility to take empties back.
So all the supermarkets could do is to collect the empties and crush them and then send to a processing plant.Never pay on an estimated bill. Always read and understand your bill0
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