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MSE News: Unemployment to 'keep on rising'
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This is the discussion thread for the following MSE News Story:
"Unemployment is set to continue rising over the next five years in most parts of the UK, a new report says ..."
"Unemployment is set to continue rising over the next five years in most parts of the UK, a new report says ..."
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That's hardly surprising bearing in mind that the many of the cuts in the public sector have not yet been implemented.
If Cameron still believes that the private sector will take up the slack left behind by public sector job losses, he is not in the real world - although we already knew that.0 -
I work in the manufacturing consultancy area and all you ever hear foreign investors complaining about are the regulations/rules of setting up business and investments in the UK which would boost growth/jobs, most of them turn to America, Africa or Asia which is much more business friendly
Personally i think the that the public sector savings are necessary but maybe not to the extent of what is being done, its short term thinking as these unemployed will be claiming benefits and not contributing rather than working and paying tax in the public sector. I think their salaries/pensions need to go down rather than whole job losses0 -
I suppose that if job losses hit all sectors of the economy equally and hit all areas of the country equally then I guess the pain might be a little easier to bear, but when the poor, the disabled, the sick, those in areas away from the south-east, the public sector and women are the ones who have to bear the majority of these cuts then things are far from well in this country. But maybe most of us knew that anyway. Our country has still not recovered from the destruction of our manufacturing base in the 1980s by the Tory party. Now, the same party is using the excuse of the "deficit" to attack and destroy the public sector. It's pure ideology. The poor get poorer, the rich get richer. And our rich-boy cabinet really could not care less . . . . Little hope for the rest of us.Where now?0
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Seems like the jobs being axed weren't needed in the first place. Got to save money somwhere. Start by cutting the fat from the budget.
I certainly couldn't care less about the new jobless folk. It seems more likely that people are unemployed not because of a lack of jobs, but because there are a lack of jobs people WANT. Why else would immigrants come en mass and take up jobs as cleaners, kitchen porters, waiters and so on.
And the rich get richer? Poor get poorer? Where is your evidence?0 -
Gosh I hope you dont end up unemployed, but it could'nt happen to you could it? You would then have to perhaps look at the reality of the situation and look at your views and that might be a little uncomfortable.Lets also hope it doesnt happen to your partner or your kids.Randvegeta wrote: »Seems like the jobs being axed weren't needed in the first place. Got to save money somwhere. Start by cutting the fat from the budget.
I certainly couldn't care less about the new jobless folk. It seems more likely that people are unemployed not because of a lack of jobs, but because there are a lack of jobs people WANT. Why else would immigrants come en mass and take up jobs as cleaners, kitchen porters, waiters and so on.
And the rich get richer? Poor get poorer? Where is your evidence?
A lot of immigrants have now returned to their country of origin because the work situation here is so bad.
There are not lots of unskilled jobs available like cleaners, kitchen assistants,waiters etc.Look at the jobcentre vacancies and ask agencies about the available work in these areas.
Theres very little available, so perhaps you need to base your opinions on the facts not upon your Daily Mail reader beliefs.
If you dont believe me then ask yourself why the jobcentre hasnt got unemployed people back to work in these areas?0 -
dandelionclock30 wrote: »Gosh I hope you dont end up unemployed, but it could'nt happen to you could it? You would then have to perhaps look at the reality of the situation and look at your views and that might be a little uncomfortable.Lets also hope it doesnt happen to your partner or your kids.
I get job offers left right and centre. I turn down work daily. I happen to work in I.T. so employment isn't an issue for me.
Don't get me wrong, I do actually feel bad for the unemployed. Particularly those people who are genuinely looking for work. Were I to lose my income, I would take any job I can get. But I have no sympathy for those who refuse to work jobs that they believe are 'below' them.
I also have no sympathy for public sector workers who think it's perfectly okay to go on strike at the expense of the tax payer. They're not worth the money they are paid and a bit of humility is due.dandelionclock30 wrote: »There are not lots of unskilled jobs available like cleaners, kitchen assistants,waiters etc.Look at the jobcentre vacancies and ask agencies about the available work in these areas. Theres very little available, so perhaps you need to base your opinions on the facts not upon your Daily Mail reader beliefs.
If you dont believe me then ask yourself why the jobcentre hasnt got unemployed people back to work in these areas?
I am not basing this on the Daily Mail or any other tabloid. I am basing this on the fact that most people I see, in most Cities in the UK, working in Restaurants, working in factories, working as cleaners, are NOT ENGLISH. I believe there arn't many jobs available, because they are being done by foreign workers. But why do foriegn workers have these jobs at all? Don't tell me it's because they are better at the job than the locals! It's because the locals don't want to do it!
Perhaps you should go out some time and see for yourself.0 -
pennineman wrote: »I suppose that if job losses hit all sectors of the economy equally and hit all areas of the country equally then I guess the pain might be a little easier to bear, but when the poor, the disabled, the sick, those in areas away from the south-east, the public sector and women are the ones who have to bear the majority of these cuts then things are far from well in this country. But maybe most of us knew that anyway. Our country has still not recovered from the destruction of our manufacturing base in the 1980s by the Tory party. Now, the same party is using the excuse of the "deficit" to attack and destroy the public sector. It's pure ideology. The poor get poorer, the rich get richer. And our rich-boy cabinet really could not care less . . . . Little hope for the rest of us.
Said like a typical Blairite...
Lets not forget two things
1) The government that put us into this mess
2) ALL parties would have made the cuts that have been made so far...don't be deceived to think they wouldn't have.
The public sector is bloated, everyone knows this...I think from memory but would have to check that it nearly quadrupled in size from the start of Labours term until the end (circa 6.7m again from memory)
This is what stifled private companies growth and to expect the private sector to suddenly pick up the slack is naive, it will do but it will take some years to do.The Googlewhacker referance is to Dave Gorman and not to my opinion of the search engine!
If I give you advice it is only a view and always always take professional advice before acting!!!
4 people on the ignore list....Bliss!0 -
Googlewhacker wrote: »Said like a typical Blairite...
Lets not forget two things
1) The government that put us into this mess
2) ALL parties would have made the cuts that have been made so far...don't be deceived to think they wouldn't have.
The public sector is bloated, everyone knows this...I think from memory but would have to check that it nearly quadrupled in size from the start of Labours term until the end (circa 6.7m again from memory)
This is what stifled private companies growth and to expect the private sector to suddenly pick up the slack is naive, it will do but it will take some years to do.
Couldn't say it better myself!0 -
Randvegeta wrote: »
I certainly couldn't care less about the new jobless folk.
That says more about you as a person as opposed to your opinions - which after such a stupid comment, wouldn't be take seriously anyway.But why do foriegn workers have these jobs at all? Don't tell me it's because
they are better at the job than the locals! It's because the locals don't want
to do it!
Perhaps it may be the fact that employers may not wish to employ 'locals' because foreign workers may be perceived as easy to exploit and are less likely to stand up for rights that have been attained over many years.
The government cite 'red tape' as a barrier to employers - it may be a barrier to to them, but for the majority of workers, red tape is their protection.0 -
dickydonkin wrote: »That says more about you as a person as opposed to your opinions - which after such a stupid comment, wouldn't be take seriously anyway.
Is there a point to this comment?dickydonkin wrote: »Perhaps it may be the fact that employers may not wish to employ 'locals' because foreign workers may be perceived as easy to exploit and are less likely to stand up for rights that have been attained over many years.
Evidence? This wont be taken seriously without some evidence.
Personally I disagree. Factory workers tend to get paid more than minimum wage (where's the exploitation), and why is it easier to exploit other EU nationals than locals?dickydonkin wrote: »The government cite 'red tape' as a barrier to employers - it may be a barrier to to them, but for the majority of workers, red tape is their protection.
I happen to agree that 'red tape' is a barrier. If taking on employees is a risk, it discourages employers from doing so! Bring on the casual workers! Makeing it easier to fire people should make hireing people more attractive!0
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