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    • wheezy57
    • By wheezy57 5th Apr 12, 11:40 AM
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    Enforcement by distraint
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    • 5th Apr 12, 11:40 AM
    Enforcement by distraint 5th Apr 12 at 11:40 AM
    Hi everyone. I have just had a letter saying that the IR are going to send in the heavies to pick up goods from my house to the amount of £5,114.50 for over payment of WTC and CTC going back 9 years. I have kept all paperword going that far back and I am at a loss as to why they think I owe this to them - immediately. I have tried ringing the helpline but it is unavailable. In 2008 I had the same letter - but for different reasons ie not the same debt - and I tried to contact them and they said I had to fill in a TC846 form - it never arrived. After that I tried ringing and ringing but that number came unavailable. I presumed they had made a mistake and that was that. Until today. I cannot get any help and I am so scared some big bloke is (and in the words on that letter an authorised officer will seize your possessions ......without notice).

    What on earth can I do now. Who can speak to if their phone isnt working? I am certain beyond any doubt at all that I do not owe this money and it is an error on their part. I can prove income, bank statements, expenditure etc till I am blue in the face - but realistically I fear it will be to no avail. David and Goliath before the slingshot.

    Does anyone else have any experience with this? and can you offer me any help or assurances and indeed guide as to what I do now?
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  • CornishWildFlower
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    No-one is saying that they don't have a right to say it.

    You say that you don't feel the need to delve into other threads that FB has written.

    In my case I haven't delved into other posts but have 'met' him on the way as I've been trying to help other posters.

    He very rarely gives advice (surely the aim of this forum?) but just, it seems to me, enjoys winding people up until they get mad. He seems to be totally insensitive to anyone's situation.

    I'm not going to post any more about this. In the end it just 'feeds' the troll.
    Originally posted by pmlindyloo
    I would say that being howled down and decried consistently is very much denying a person their right to speak, apart from being the height of bad manners.
    • antonic
    • By antonic 8th Apr 12, 1:54 PM
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    Your post #72 to my post #71.

    If I mistook your reply to my post as having a dig @ HMRC I apologise it was a misunderstanding on my part.

    But the point about being in the HMRC enforcement process stands, engage with them and you will get a more positive outcome.



    Antonic - your change of tone from post 71 to your latest is somewhat confusing.
    I was so pleased by your earlier post and then you drop a horror on 74? What happened inbetween?
    Originally posted by wheezy57
    Last edited by antonic; 08-04-2012 at 2:04 PM.
    LBM Sept 2005 spoke to Payplan - brilliant !
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    • wheezy57
    • By wheezy57 9th Apr 12, 12:07 PM
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    I have read the entire thread and I don't feel the need to delve into other threads FB has contributed to. There is more than an element of manipulation (bordering on bullying) going on here, and not on FB or DSeventy's part.

    You may not like what they say but, they have every right to say it.
    Originally posted by CornishWildFlower
    Of course they do - never said they didnt. As for bullying. Do you think that asking for advice and stating the position honestly and as simply as I can - and then having to repeat myself you call that manipulating possibly bullying. Youve lost me on that one...
    • wheezy57
    • By wheezy57 9th Apr 12, 12:14 PM
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    No-one is saying that they don't have a right to say it.

    You say that you don't feel the need to delve into other threads that FB has written.

    In my case I haven't delved into other posts but have 'met' him on the way as I've been trying to help other posters.

    He very rarely gives advice (surely the aim of this forum?) but just, it seems to me, enjoys winding people up until they get mad. He seems to be totally insensitive to anyone's situation.

    I'm not going to post any more about this. In the end it just 'feeds' the troll.
    Originally posted by pmlindyloo
    pmlindyloo, I am sorry you are going as I have truly appreciated your posts. You are right though - it just all feeds this/these trolls and they cant get enough.

    I shant post anymore either as I am now being called manipualting and borderline bullying. How sad the way this forum goes when all I asked was advice and what-to-do-next. I got told in no uncertain terms didnt I with the back up of some other rather misguided posters. Still, there you go - thats life. I would rather be in mine than be in any way part of theirs. I can feel the heat from their halos from here.

    pmlindylou - thanks again. And I wish you well for the future. I shall look out for your posts on other threads..

    w57.
    • wheezy57
    • By wheezy57 9th Apr 12, 12:18 PM
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    Your post #72 to my post #71.

    If I mistook your reply to my post as having a dig @ HMRC I apologise it was a misunderstanding on my part.

    But the point about being in the HMRC enforcement process stands, engage with them and you will get a more positive outcome.
    Originally posted by antonic
    That is definitely the way forward. I am not an agressive or confrontational person - just standing up for myself. I have sat all day and gone through every single award notice that they have sent me and there is not figure that tallies with anything else. Its a crazy confusing situation. At one point they have me working for Bucks County Council! I live in Cumbria and have done for 35 years. If it wasnt so serious I would laugh (not funny ha ha either). One last point - I am still getting Working Tax Credit to the tune of £3 a week. All legit and above board..so what has gone wrong is beyond me. But thanks though for helpful posts - much appreciated.
    • wheezy57
    • By wheezy57 9th Apr 12, 12:24 PM
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    I would say that being howled down and decried consistently is very much denying a person their right to speak, apart from being the height of bad manners.
    Originally posted by CornishWildFlower
    Howled down, decried - whaaaaatttttt. They have never been denied the right to speak throughout the thread. Its just the delivery of some of their comments were taken in the spirit they were given. Nasty trollish and unecessary. Bad manners! Oh for goodness sake go and eat a pasty or something. Interpret that how you like.....
  • fogartyblue.
    Howled down, decried - whaaaaatttttt. They have never been denied the right to speak throughout the thread. Its just the delivery of some of their comments were taken in the spirit they were given. Nasty trollish and unecessary. Bad manners! Oh for goodness sake go and eat a pasty or something. Interpret that how you like.....
    Originally posted by wheezy57
    And who is being nasty again????
    • wheezy57
    • By wheezy57 10th Apr 12, 7:14 PM
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    And who is being nasty again????
    Originally posted by fogartyblue.
    Asking someone to go and get a pasty is nasty. Oh dear its time for you go just stop posting.
    • wheezy57
    • By wheezy57 10th Apr 12, 7:15 PM
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    On this thread in particular. Helpful and informative posters are more than welcome - you are not.
    • sharnad
    • By sharnad 12th Apr 12, 9:07 AM
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    Did you get through on any of the numbers yet
    • wheezy57
    • By wheezy57 12th Apr 12, 5:55 PM
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    Did you get through on any of the numbers yet
    Originally posted by sharnad
    No! I have done as much as I can at the moment (within my capabilities) with emails, registered letters and MP. The phone numbers are just not available. I wonder why they put it on the letter and then when one tries to get through they are unavailable!!

    Thank you for your interest though.
    • sharnad
    • By sharnad 12th Apr 12, 6:58 PM
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    No! I have done as much as I can at the moment (within my capabilities) with emails, registered letters and MP. The phone numbers are just not available. I wonder why they put it on the letter and then when one tries to get through they are unavailable!!

    Thank you for your interest though.
    Originally posted by wheezy57

    Hopefully your MP will get you an answer
    • wheezy57
    • By wheezy57 13th Apr 12, 5:54 PM
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    Hopefully your MP will get you an answer
    Originally posted by sharnad
    They have phoned whilst I was at work today of which I have left a message on their answering machine. I rang the numbers given today at regular intervals and all I got was that the line was out of order!! So I feel another letter this weekend and then faxing - if thats not out of order. We shall see!!!

    Thanks for enquiring
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