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MSE News: EU overhaul leads to faster electronic payments
Former_MSE_Guy
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This is the discussion thread for the following MSE News Story:
"High value and some overseas money transfers will this week go through within one working day, under a new EU directive ..."
"High value and some overseas money transfers will this week go through within one working day, under a new EU directive ..."
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Excellent, about time too... thank EU very much :rotfl:0
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Excellent news and about time too.
The main reason why transfers previously took 2-3 days (and they still do when transferring money back to a card i.e Visa) is that banks use to use our money on the stock markets or keep it to earn interest. They always could transfer money within 2 hours but chose not too so that they could increase their profits. Visa still do it, using the 2-3days to hold on to our money. I'm glad banks have been forced to do this but expect them to come out with all the previous threats about the end to free banking i.e they have lower profits and so need us to pay more to increase them again.I use multimatcher lazza which has the tab "bonus if 0-0"0 -
The only down fall is that the banks do not seem to be identifying which method the payment is being sent when making the payment........Im an ex employee RBS GroupHowever Any Opinion Given On MSE Is Strictly My Own0
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Excellent news and about time too.
The main reason why transfers previously took 2-3 days (and they still do when transferring money back to a card i.e Visa) is that banks use to use our money on the stock markets or keep it to earn interest. They always could transfer money within 2 hours but chose not too so that they could increase their profits. Visa still do it, using the 2-3days to hold on to our money. I'm glad banks have been forced to do this but expect them to come out with all the previous threats about the end to free banking i.e they have lower profits and so need us to pay more to increase them again.
I would not say they "always could" do it within 2 hours - their systems were designed to do batch processing overnight. Certainly, technology advanced to the point where near-real-time transfers became possible a long time ago. But the banks had little incentive to redesign their payment processing systems (and it required cooperation between all the banks).
Nationwide seem to have an interesting take on the legislation:
Q: Will all banks and building societies’ sort codes be able to receive electronic payments?
A: To ensure that your payment reaches the payee’s account, you must provide us with a nominated account whose destination sort code is both Faster Payments and CHAPS reachable. Failure to do so will result in us being unable to accept that payment instruction.
The financial services industry is working to ensure that all sort codes that currently receive BACS payments can receive Faster Payments.
However, some banks and building societies will not be enabling some of their sort codes to receive Faster Payments and as a result Nationwide will not be able to make payments to these accounts as we will be in breach of the regulations.0 -
I notice that Regulation 73(1)&(2) of the Payment Services Regulations 2009 mandates that incoming bank transfers must be immediately credited to your bank account or credit card upon receipt by your bank or card issuer. Your bank or card issuer cannot, for example, post-date the transaction until the next day or wait until the next day to make the funds available to you. This is a nice improvement because some credit card issuers post-date incoming payments until the next business day.0
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i've NEVER been able to use faster payments despite my banks telling me a long time ago that its 'now available on the account'. Every payment i've sent has taken 2-3 working days even though the money is taken immediately. I always receive in the same time.0
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Could MSE Guy or a banking industry expert confirm what happens if a transaction is submitted with an amount that exceeds your bank's FP transaction limit.
e.g. Online single payment of £11,000 from an RBS current account (RBS limit = £10K)
Will the transaction be sent using CHAPS free of charge ?
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Will it go by FP ignoring the RBS transaction limit ?
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Will the transaction be rejected ?This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
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Good news.
I'm unclear though about a one-off to payment from a current account to a credit card - is this now a next day transfer?0 -
It has to arrive by no later than the next working day, but in practice FPS means it will arrive the same day. However, your card issuer must credit the amount to your card account immediately upon receipt. They cannot post-date it until the next day for example.luckwudaveit wrote: »I'm unclear though about a one-off to payment from a current account to a credit card - is this now a next day transfer?0
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