new born kitties.

atrixblue.-MFR-. · 4 June 2011 at 8:17PM

hi all.

my tabby has had newborn kitties, knew she was pregger and knew roughly when due, anyway she had them in secret in my daughters room, just three little ones, wich i think were delivered day/night before thursday, they were in a awkard place so i relocated mum and kits as so they would be out of harms way, (she had them under a cupboard drawer that daughters have their clothes in for playing outside). over the last 2 days, she has grown more distant from kits, lay on one and suffocated it to death (i popped out for 10 mins cam in noticed on missing moved her and she was sat right on it others were in the otherside of basket so only 2 left), she still feeds and grooms but only when i put her back to her kits otherwise she just leaves them fend for themselfs and sleeps elsewhere or goes to them only to sit on them i have to lift them outfrom under her and place them to suckle she doesnt move a inch when they cry out whilst she's sat on them.

i'm starting to think she's rejecting them slowly, what do you guys think.

robocop · 4 June 2011 at 8:31PM

I would get some advice from a specialised cat charity ASAP. They will die from hypothermia if she doesn't keep them warm, and need to be fed and groomed by her every few hours, so they really should be kept with her. But the risk of closing her in with them in a cage for example is that she will smother/harm the others too. Seriously, Cats Protection or any rescue that takes in cats will know best.

rising_from_the_ashes · 4 June 2011 at 8:47PM

Ohhhh my, that's awful and must be really stressful. Please do as Robocop advices and contact someone for advice immediately.

How did you exactly relocate them?

If you do have to move them you should take any bedding, towels etc with them so they have the smell on them.

Also, it could be she's not comfortable with where you've moved them to - is it a very secluded, quiet place? (somewhere like she had them)?

Is there anyway you could put them back to where they were as she obviously feels comfortable there (maybe move your daughters clothes)?

They need fed every couple of hours at this point and need their mum 24/7.

Good luck

atrixblue.-MFR-. · 4 June 2011 at 9:13PM

rising_from_the_ashes wrote: »

Ohhhh my, that's awful and must be really stressful. Please do as Robocop advices and contact someone for advice immediately.

How did you exactly relocate them?

If you do have to move them you should take any bedding, towels etc with them so they have the smell on them.

Also, it could be she's not comfortable with where you've moved them to - is it a very secluded, quiet place? (somewhere like she had them)?

Is there anyway you could put them back to where they were as she obviously feels comfortable there (maybe move your daughters clothes)?

They need fed every couple of hours at this point and need their mum 24/7.

Good luck

yes its very quiet where they are and she has more room.

yes she has been moved with stuff she provided/gave birth on.

i cant put her back under the cupboard the drawers are unsteady as it is and fear they may collpase on them all as the runners for the drawers are week and worn just pulling it out was a task in itself (bee and kew cheapy)

a woman for the RSPCA said she would try get a cat sanctuary volunteer to call me as many round here dont operate 24/7 so she's going to give one on call a ring to call me back within the hour if on is available. if not will be tomorrow morning. if anything happens in that time, i have to call RSPCA back and give a ref and they will try and arrange for me to take the kits to a sanctuary to be properly looked after profesionally and try and increase their survival rate if she rejects them.

925dancer · 4 June 2011 at 9:20PM

Get onto https://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk IMMEDIATELY and post in there. There are rescuers with kitten experience. You need immediate and urgent help, kittens don't last long without proper car.

:mad: RSPCA, couldn't organise the proverbial in a brewery.

rising_from_the_ashes · 4 June 2011 at 9:24PM

Hope you hear from the sanctuary people soon.

Both my current cats came from rejected litters:

My boy's mum rejected the litter but they were 4 weeks - my pal and I who were having 2 of them anyway so took them (both of us very experienced owners) and did the syringe feeding every couple of hours, bottom wiping (eugh) etc which left the cat's owner with 2 to hand rear herself.

My girl's mum rejected the litter after her owner decided to spay her at 3.5 weeks (I'm glad it was done as it was her 2nd litter and she was only 2 but cannot believe a vet would spay an obviously nursing mother) and she wanted - probably not surprisingly - nothing to do with them when she got home. So she was also hand reared.

Keeping my fingers crossed for you - poor wee mites.

covcats · 4 June 2011 at 10:29PM

Hi,

whereabouts do you live? You need to watch mum and if she is rejecting kittens they will need to be kept warm and fed with a kitten milk such as Cimicat or LActol every two hours or less. You will only be able to get this from a vet or a local rescue - most local rescues will have some.

How is mum otherwise - is she eating and acting normally. Sometimes there are complications with kittens being stuck or an interrupted birth and she may still have a kitten inside or even be developing an infection.

If you have not heard from anyone else, it may be worth checking out some of your more local rescues at
www dot catchat dot org/adoption/index.html

smaller rescues are more likely to be able to help.

hope things are getting better or you have gone to the vets,

Angie
coventry cat group

atrixblue.-MFR-. · 5 June 2011 at 12:21AM

mum is walking drinking and eating relieving fine, no blood in urine and none in her excrament. she's returned to them three times since my post and stayed and kept them warm after doing what she needs to do.

no the RPSCA didnt get back to me but i will give another call tomorrow afternoon if not contacted in the morning.

i'm keeping my eye on them periodically. hopfully she dont decide to flip the coin on its head during the night now and end up smothering both while i sleep.

i'm quite shocked that VET decided to spay an obviously nursing queen, but ive also come accross vets that simply dont care for kittens and their outcomes too.

gettingready · 5 June 2011 at 12:13PM

How are the kitties doing?

Mankysteve · 5 June 2011 at 12:37PM

Some female cats just dont make good mothers, have a google there loads of info out ther about looking after them, but its a full time job unfortatnly. Make sure you get mum nutered when she finished with her motherly stuff.

atrixblue.-MFR-. · 5 June 2011 at 9:59PM

Mankysteve wrote: »

Some female cats just dont make good mothers, have a google there loads of info out ther about looking after them, but its a full time job unfortatnly. Make sure you get mum nutered when she finished with her motherly stuff.

it was the plan to get here neutered before she became preggers, but due to her getting pregnant and vet givinmg me the choice for me to abort them or carry through then do it, i thought well i'll let her have a chance at mother hood then get her done. ive brought up kits before in the past too i know how demanding it is, or my choice would have been different knowing what could happen she ever decided to reject.

no outcome of a call back and trying to get hold of anyone at the RSPCA on a sunday is like pulling teath. ive managed to get hold of a cat fosterer, who gave me good advice to follow.

thanks all.

new born kitties.

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