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MSE News: Bank charges crackdown included in coalition government agreement

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"The new government says it will introduce measures to end what it calls "unfair bank charges" ..."
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  • poppy10_2
    poppy10_2 Posts: 6,588 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    "We will introduce stronger consumer protections, including measures to end unfair bank and financial transaction charges"

    Pretty non-specific and wishy-washy. Not feeling too optimistic about this.
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  • orc_2
    orc_2 Posts: 563 Forumite
    They have gone back on their pre election statements/ promises now they have got what they wanted and are in power.

    Its nice and easy to make soundbites geared to win votes then forget the promises made.
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  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,885 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Its nice and easy to make soundbites geared to win votes then forget the promises made.

    LibDems never really had much chance of power. So, they could say what they liked really. However, now they do have some power, the realisation that you cant do things that some people would like has hit home.

    Realistically, looking foward at new charges is the logical option. Not unless they want years of battling in the courts at great expense on something that is more likely to fail than succeed.
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  • orc_2
    orc_2 Posts: 563 Forumite
    Here is what they actually say:

    5. CONSUMER PROTECTION

    The Government believes that action is needed to protect consumers, particularly the most vulnerable, and to promote greater competition across the economy. We need to promote more responsible corporate and consumer behaviour through greater transparency and by harnessing the insights from behavioural economics and social psychology.
    • We will give regulators new powers to define and ban excessive interest rates on credit and store cards; and we will introduce a seven-day cooling-off period for store cards.
    • We will oblige credit card companies to provide better information to their customers in a uniform electronic format that will allow consumers to find out whether they are receiving the best deal.
    The Coalition: our programme for government [FONT=Gill Sans MT Pro Medium,Gill Sans MT Pro Medium][FONT=Gill Sans MT Pro Medium,Gill Sans MT Pro Medium]13
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    • We will introduce stronger consumer protections, including measures to end unfair bank and financial transaction charges.
    • We will take forward measures to enhance customer service in the private and public sectors.


    So, lets see what what happens.

    Interstingly, they refer to "unfair bank and financial transaction charges."

    They do that when banks have generally reduced bank charges and made them a bit easier to understand. They do that after the Supreme Court decision. That seems interesting.
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  • natweststaffmember
    natweststaffmember Posts: 12,063 Forumite
    dunstonh wrote: »
    LibDems never really had much chance of power. So, they could say what they liked really. However, now they do have some power, the realisation that you cant do things that some people would like has hit home.

    Realistically, looking foward at new charges is the logical option. Not unless they want years of battling in the courts at great expense on something that is more likely to fail than succeed.

    Unless the case was referred to the ECJ for clarification on Unfair Terms Directive from 1993 which is UTCCR 1999. That would be superb news.

    However, I am sure banks would argue that their charges have been tested for fairness and they are not unfair so it will be interesting how they lobby on this one.
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  • orc_2
    orc_2 Posts: 563 Forumite

    Unless the case was referred to the ECJ for clarification on Unfair Terms Directive from 1993 which is UTCCR 1999. That would be superb news.

    However, I am sure banks would argue that their charges have been tested for fairness and they are not unfair so it will be interesting how they lobby on this one.

    Who would refer the case to ECJ?
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  • natweststaffmember
    natweststaffmember Posts: 12,063 Forumite
    orc wrote: »
    Who would refer the case to ECJ?

    Have you read Dunstonh's post? He said a battle through the courts....now who do you think will refer it to the ECJ?
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  • orc_2
    orc_2 Posts: 563 Forumite
    edited 20 May 2010 at 2:58PM
    Oh, well pardon me Nattie for breathing.

    Yes I did Dunstonh post, I normally read his posts on charges.

    What I am not clear on is the process that takes the issue back to the court (which has already taken a decision, albeit one we think is flawed), that leads the court battle and for them to refer it to ECJ.
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  • natweststaffmember
    natweststaffmember Posts: 12,063 Forumite
    orc wrote: »
    Oh, well pardon me Nattie for breathing.

    Yes I did Dunstonh post, I normally read his posts on charges.

    What I am not clear on is the process that takes the issue back to the court (which has already taken a decision, albeit one we think is flawed), that leads the court battle and for them to refer it to ECJ.

    Nor do I but I guess that is for Dunstonh to reveal to us :)
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  • orc_2
    orc_2 Posts: 563 Forumite
    Thanks Nattie, lets see if we can find an answer to that then.

    Here is a BBB News item.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10130671.stm

    'Unfair' bank charges to be banned, government proposes


    Page last updated at 13:37 GMT, Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:37 UK _47885157_bankcharges.jpg
    The plans will rein in bank charges and excessive credit card rates An end to "unfair" bank and other financial transaction charges are among the new policies that have been set out by the coalition government.

    Last year, the Office of Fair Trading suffered a high profile legal defeat in its attempts to regulate bank charges.
    The government's plans also include powers to ban "excessive" interest rates on credit and store cards.

    Among the other measures are a promise to give homeowners more protection against "aggressive" bailiffs.
    Courts will also be told that repossessions must always be a last resort.
    Continue reading the main story
    I expect pressure, especially on the state-owned banks, to sharply reduce their charges
    Martin Lewis Moneysavingexpert.com 'Historic' deal The plans policy-by-policy

    Under another proposal, people taking out a store card for the first time will be given a seven-day cooling off period, which is aimed at stopping some people getting into debt in the first place.

    Reaction Marc Gander of the Consumer Action Group, a leading campaigner on bank charges, welcomed the government's commitment, but said it would be important to see the detail.

    "It [the government] does not define 'unfair' or say what protections will be granted overall," he said.
    Martin Lewis of Moneysavingexpert.com also welcomed the new policy.

    "I expect pressure, especially on the state-owned banks, to sharply reduce their charges," he said.
    "If they don't play ball, the government needs to legislate to make this happen."

    The British Bankers' Association played down the implications of the government's threat.

    "The OFT has already looked into bank charges and in March this year reported that 'real progress' is being made by the industry in making current accounts work well for customers," said a spokesman.

    "Competition is driving down the cost of other accounts that provide a whole range of different features as part of the package," he added.
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