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Scarborough BS 6% ISA option
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Milarky
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Scarborough Building Society offers their regular savings account with an ISA option - paying 6%!
The restrictions are that this can only be added to at £250 per month - not £3000 from the start of the tax year - transfers in not accepted - and is limited to £15,000 - when it must be transferred to a different ISA product. However this looks like a good option for anyone only able to save out of income [eg £100 per month] and looking for a tax free route.
The restrictions are that this can only be added to at £250 per month - not £3000 from the start of the tax year - transfers in not accepted - and is limited to £15,000 - when it must be transferred to a different ISA product. However this looks like a good option for anyone only able to save out of income [eg £100 per month] and looking for a tax free route.
.....under construction.... COVID is a [discontinued] scam
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OK, this is a higher rate paying ISA but is a 'regular saver' account, and has to be added one to month at a time. Over time however, the average balance builds up to and approaches the average balance on an ISA where you can put a year's entire subscription in on day one [i.e. one without restrictions on paying in]
Out of curiousity, just see what happens to the end-of-year balances on both kinds of ISA - one at 6% paying in £250 per month and one at 5% with £3000 paid in once a year at the beginning [Assume the regular saver is added to at the start of each month too]
End Of RS ISA [6%] Other ISA [5%]
Year 1 £3097.50 £3150.00
Year 2 £6380.85 £6457.50
Year 3 £9861.20 £9930.38
Year 4 £13550.37 £13576.89
Clearly the regular saver is going to overhaul the lower paying ISA soon after four years - and no account has been taken of the additional interest which could be garnered from drip feeding the money from a taxable savings product.
Even at 5% [4% after tax] that would be 4 years on £1375 - i.e. 16% of 1375 or about £220 [at 6% taxable, it would be £264]. So by the end of year 4 the regular saver would actually have nosed ahead by nearly £200. Is it worth it? I don't know - I leave that to others
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The observation being made here is that the effect of having to drip feed into an ISA becomes less and less significant [because annual subscription limits are fixed anyway] as the balances themselves build up. Thus you are able to access the 'differentially higher' rate better and better as time goes by.
In the case of the Scarborough there is a limit of £15,000 on this ISA option - and the account then has to revert to a lower rate product - but I suppose the canny investor could simply keep transferring [what is in effect] annual interest to a non Scarborough ISA to prevent this happening......under construction.... COVID is a [discontinued] scam0 -
Thanks for all the analysis. However there are a couple more points worth mentioning.
Firstly, for a regular savings policy it is surprisingly flexible. The monthly payments can vary each month and can be anything from £10 - £250. Plus you can skip 2 months each year. So very suitable for those not sure how much they will be able to afford each month.
Secondly your figures are not quite comparible. If somebody who has a lump sum available to invest was thinking about using this regular savings account the money waiting to drip feed in would also be earning interest in whatever savings account it was in. Therefore the saver with a lump sum will be better off using this policy than your figures suggest. [EDIT just noticed you had already acknowledged this in your post]
Finally bear in mind that new accounts always start off with good interest rates and then become increasingly less competitive over time. So I would not base any decision on how things might look in 4 years time. Better to look one year at a time and always bear in mind it might be worth switching to the latest products.0 -
Hi, is the Scarborough 6% fixed or not, if so for how long ?0
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Hobo wrote:Hi, is the Scarborough 6% fixed or not, if so for how long ?
No, the 6% interest rate on the Scarborough account is a variable-rate. Still, this account is worth a look, as unlike so many other regular savers, this one does not sweep out the accumulated funds after 1 year.Please call me 'Kazza'.0 -
Reaper wrote:Finally bear in mind that new accounts always start off with good interest rates and then become increasingly less competitive over time.
Their annual booklet of interest rates for existing accounts and past accounts gets ever chunkier :rolleyes: .
4 years is a long time in the life of the average Scarborough account. And don't expect them to give you any stamped addressed envelopes, either.0 -
Reporter wrote:Connoisseurs of the Scarborough know that they have a reputation for teaser rate accounts that eventually disappear off the radar.
Sharp practices from this society that doesn't do much for the name of mutuality!Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.0 -
Yeh, always look at what the rates are on the other accounts before you jump in for the long haul.
Thats why people should be very careful of that IICICICICIC bank (spellin??) thats currently paying 5.4% - As its other rates are rubbish.0 -
BTW it`s £15000 invested limit, so accrued interest within the account does not affect the (£250 x 60 mth) payments over 5 yrs, for cash ISA starting now you will not make that many payments anyway due to G.Brown`s end date!0
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