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Turned down with a top credit score!
Hello All, new member here.
I have joined to be honest to try understand what has happened with not one but two loan applications.
I want to buy a new car and applied to Sainsbury's for a loan of £8k over 5yrs to pay for it. I am in full time employment, same company for 3yrs 4mths, and earn a salary in the low to mid twenties, earning regularly bonuses (recruitment consultant). I have one other loan with my ex-wife which is going to be settled in August this year.
I bank with A&L, and the loan noted above is also with them (It was £15k over 5yrs starting August 2005).
Last night I got an email to ring Sainsbury's and then it happened. The room span when the lady on the other end said I had been unsuccessful!
I then proceeded to subscribe to Equifax and purchased a credit report, and credit rating check.
My credit score is 509!!!!!
I tried a moment ago with another company and they declined me.
What is going on?
Would the electoral roll have anything to do with it?
Any help is much appreciated, and apologies for a 'war and peace' opening thread.
Cheers
Gavin
I have joined to be honest to try understand what has happened with not one but two loan applications.
I want to buy a new car and applied to Sainsbury's for a loan of £8k over 5yrs to pay for it. I am in full time employment, same company for 3yrs 4mths, and earn a salary in the low to mid twenties, earning regularly bonuses (recruitment consultant). I have one other loan with my ex-wife which is going to be settled in August this year.
I bank with A&L, and the loan noted above is also with them (It was £15k over 5yrs starting August 2005).
Last night I got an email to ring Sainsbury's and then it happened. The room span when the lady on the other end said I had been unsuccessful!
I then proceeded to subscribe to Equifax and purchased a credit report, and credit rating check.
My credit score is 509!!!!!
I tried a moment ago with another company and they declined me.
What is going on?
Would the electoral roll have anything to do with it?
Any help is much appreciated, and apologies for a 'war and peace' opening thread.
Cheers
Gavin
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Very simply the Experian/Equifax credit score means nothing at all. All companies have their own criteria.
If you are not on the electoral roll then I am 90% certain that will be the problem.Don't lie, thieve, cheat or steal. The Government do not like the competition.
The Lord Giveth and the Government Taketh Away.
I'm sorry, I don't apologise. That's just the way I am. Homer (Simpson)0 -
As said it is down to companies and credit files don't mean a lot.
If it has went to an underwriter being in a highly volatile industry with bonus based salary may not be in your favour along with another outstanding large loan.0 -
Thank you for your prompt responses, I appreciate it very much.
So, if I talk to my own bank (A&L - been with them for over 6 years now), do you think there is a better chance of getting accepted, OR is it not worth yet another decline in my name?
The electoral roll forms are in the post as it happens, and coincidently have been sent because of the up coming elections, not the new car!
I hope you are right because I feel pretty upset by all this - I really was not expecting to be refused, having never had any issues with credit in my whole life, not to mention not being able to get the new car I was getting excited about.
Oh - last question - how quickly will getting on the electoral roll be noted as far as applications are concerned?0 -
Electoral roll is but one element in scoring.
Time and again I see these threads so I thought I input this;
As a broker since 1991 I saw the development of scoring and this is basically a quick overview of how scoring works.
When scoring was developed they examined the profiles of people that had been in financial difficulty.
During those studies they found people that got into difficulty exhibited certain traites as follows;
They tended to smoke - dont shout at me - these were cold hard statistics and thats one of the things they found.
They tended not to be interested in voting / not on voters roll.
They tended to have quite often moved address at least once in the last 3 years. Those at particular risk of developing bad credit often had a very 'jumpy' lifestyle - changing address / living above pubs / bedding down at a mates etc.
They often tended to less stable interms of thier habits and lifestyle - for example they were much more likely to have had at least 2 jobs in 3 years.
They tended to live in rougher areas.
They were more likely to be van drivers or scaffolders rather than teachers of local government workers.
They tended not to have a pension.
They had a high inscidence of being weekly paid.
They Often did not have a landline at home at tended also not to give a work landline phone - again these are cold hard factual stATS.
They tended to lose things like mobile phones and have had to change number at least once.
They were more likely to buy a pay as you go mobile.
They Tended to be more likely to live in a non standard property (for example a flat over a shop, or a concrete council flat).
Divorce and separation were more likely to feature in thier recent past.
In a nut shell lender essentially seek nerdy librarian types when it comes to lending - the sort that always vote, dont tend to change much, tend to stick at a job / address a long time - just boring stable types really.
If you want a good score - act like a nerdy librarian0 -
509 is not a high credit score? Mine is 750 (i think) and I was made bankrupt a couple of years ago..
My score sees me as a 'good' score.
509 must be classes as poor, or very poor.
Sorry in advance if I've misread things.9/70lbs to lose0 -
inmypocketnottheirs wrote: »
If you are not on the electoral roll then I am 90% certain that will be the problem.
Most definately9/70lbs to lose0 -
You need to be on electoral role...also a point to consider is you say you have a joint loan with ex. You will be 'financially associated' with her. If she has a poor history ie has been missing payments, ccj's etc this can impact a lenders decision on your application. Once the loan is paid you must contact all the CRAs and 'dis-assiciate yourself from her' its a form and is easy to do
I have been in simular situ, never missed a payment, good income, good debt/income ratio , electoral role, stable job etc but was getting turned down - i was advised to do this by the bank and asked them to reconsider my application once i had removed him from my file. They accepted me.0 -
509 is not a high credit score? Mine is 750 (i think) and I was made bankrupt a couple of years ago..
My score sees me as a 'good' score.
509 must be classes as poor, or very poor.
Sorry in advance if I've misread things.
Incorrect - he is referring to Equifax score, you are talking about Experian.
Either way, both are rubbish as they are random numbers made up by the CRAs to make £5-6 a touch. They are not used by lenders or seen by them, a lender uses their own secret criteria that Equifax and Experian do not. Each criteria for each lender is very different.
There are just as many people with Experian scores of 999 who cant get a sub prime credit card. Go figure.
Use the information on the files, i.e number of previous searches in 3/6 months, account conduct, number of missed payments and whether or not you are on the voters roll as a good guide to whether or not your score is going to be potentially good.
Add this to the information you put on your application yourself - time at job, time at address, salary, status - the things that are MISSING from your experian and equifax con score, and then you will be able to correct or assess your credit worthiness.
I am tired of 'I have an amazing credit score and cant get a loan' threads0 -
Thank you all for your input, I appreciate it.
Gavin0 -
inmypocketnottheirs wrote: »Very simply the Experian/Equifax credit score means nothing at all. All companies have their own criteria.
If you are not on the electoral roll then I am 90% certain that will be the problem.
I am not on the Electoral Role (don't care if i get fined) and i have:
1 x Loan from my Bank (£10K over 1 year)
1 x AMEX Platinum (Credit Limit: £18K)
1 x Barclaycard Platinum (Credit Limit: £15K)
Full current accounts
I think this has alot to do with (as stated above by someone), the circumstances of your life rather than an electoral role score.
Also, a mid-twenties salary when you already have a £15K loan is pretty low income.0
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