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HSBC: Internet banking transfers

Has anyone else noticed that HSBC have reduced the amount you can transfer online from a HSBC account to an external bank account to £5,000 from £10,000/day - unless the Payee is listed in their list of organisations (which remains at £10K).

Seems that you now need to call them or go to a branch if you want to transfer more than £5,000 :(

Regards
Sunil
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  • Spot on. No doubt the reason is in some way linked to reducing losses to fraud.

    I can add this to my personal list of reasons to keep secondary accounts open (e.g. a First Direct account to pass additional money through).
  • ManAtHome
    ManAtHome Posts: 8,512 Forumite
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    Did you find out when you tried to transfer? (I haven't moved over £5k since middle of Feb)
  • jonesMUFCforever
    jonesMUFCforever Posts: 28,898 Forumite
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    The vast majority of genuine online transfers are for small amounts - the majority of fraudelent ones are not.
  • gt94sss2
    gt94sss2 Posts: 6,032 Forumite
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    edited 14 March 2010 at 8:06PM
    ManAtHome wrote: »
    Did you find out when you tried to transfer? (I haven't moved over £5k since middle of Feb)

    It was actually my father, with me looking over his shoulder.

    Further investigation reveals that the new £5k limit is now also mentioned on their Internet Banking help pages and the UK Payments Association pages

    Ironically, he was trying to top up his HSBC InvestDirect ISA from his HSBC current account(!).. and it came up with an error message when it usually comes up with the payment confirmation message.

    If I try and put such a test payment through myself I also get:
    Make a payment

    We are unable to make this payment as it exceeds our limit for this type of payment.

    The limit to pay bills and organisations from our standard list is £10,000. For all other payments the limit is £5,000 per day.

    To make a payment between £5,000 and £10,000 please call us on 0845 600 2290 or +44 1226 261 226 (textphone 1800 08457 125 563)* .

    * Lines are open from 8am to 10pm every day (except Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Year's Day). To help us continually improve our service , and in the interests of security, we may monitor and/or record your communication with us. (124)
    I wonder when they made this change.. - though suspect all Premier, Advance etc customers can call 24/7 to make a payment..

    Regards
    Sunil
  • ManAtHome
    ManAtHome Posts: 8,512 Forumite
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    Cheers Sunil - surprised they didn't put up a message. My last £5k+ transfer was 16th Feb (to a Building Society account), so changed sometime after then...
  • Inactive
    Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
    Well they could have sent a message to customers about this change, very soon we will all have to ring the branch to actually use our accounts.:mad:
  • cottager
    cottager Posts: 934 Forumite
    I don't bank with HSBC so this doesn't affect me, but it's so depressing... the road towards consistently achieving the full Faster Payments service from all banks seems to have always been one (slow) step forward and two back in the almost 2 yrs since it was introduced. I know full well there are cost, technical and security issues for the banks, but it's so frustrating.
    ~cottager
  • dougz_2
    dougz_2 Posts: 523 Forumite
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    edited 19 March 2010 at 4:56AM
    They never told me. Poor show that HSBC not announce this significant reduction in service. Could come as a nasty surprise to someone trying to beat a deadline during an evening.

    And BTW what happened to that system they announced they were going to prevent such fraud by instant calling your phone to verify transactions?
  • gt94sss2
    gt94sss2 Posts: 6,032 Forumite
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    dougz wrote: »
    And BTW what happened to that system they announced they were going to prevent such fraud by instant calling your phone to verify transactions?

    I've encountered that when changing my contact details online and its apparently used for sending payments overseas as well - perhaps when its rolled out to other services, they will lift the limit again?

    It had been £10K for as long as I can remember..

    Regards
    Sunil
  • cottager
    cottager Posts: 934 Forumite
    edited 20 March 2010 at 6:37PM
    gt94sss2 wrote: »
    It had been £10K for as long as I can remember.

    I think (only from what I've read) for HSBC it was £20 during the first week when FP went live at the end of May 2008, then up to the full £10k. To halve it now so long later makes you think it must be down to something pretty major. From a quick search, apart from the UK Banking page with the £5k figure and this thread, I can't see any comment about it. It leaves RBS/Natwest and Barclays as the only high street banks currently offering the full amount -- hope this isn't a sign they'll all be back-pedalling.
    ~cottager
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