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gabyjane
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But recieving more money instead. This is what someone at my work is doing and i'm wondering if i would be better off?
I am going to try and work out tonight if i am and am going to do it like this..
work out my annual figure i get paid which will include holidays and then work it out minus 20 days (my holiday) and see what figure i would get and see if a higher wage would be better? is this the right way?!
Thanks
I am going to try and work out tonight if i am and am going to do it like this..
work out my annual figure i get paid which will include holidays and then work it out minus 20 days (my holiday) and see what figure i would get and see if a higher wage would be better? is this the right way?!
Thanks
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Employers are required by law to provide a minimum number of days paid holiday (and make the employee take it) and cannot pay in lieu of that.
"Holiday pay should be paid for the time when you actually take your holiday. Your employer cannot include an amount for holiday pay in your hourly rate (called 'rolled-up holiday pay'). If your current contract still includes rolled-up pay, you and your employer should renegotiate it."
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Timeoffandholidays/DG_10034711A kind word lasts a minute, a skelped erse is sair for a day.0 -
Alternative is to get a temp job for some of the time that you will take as holiday from your main one.But recieving more money instead. This is what someone at my work is doing and i'm wondering if i would be better off?
I am going to try and work out tonight if i am and am going to do it like this..
work out my annual figure i get paid which will include holidays and then work it out minus 20 days (my holiday) and see what figure i would get and see if a higher wage would be better? is this the right way?!
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Are you part time? min holidays is 28 for full time (5days.)
there are limited cases where holiday can be paid as you go but it must be itemised seperately and be 12.07%0 -
I noticed the mention of 20 days but thought it was probably 20 days plus BHs - but should have checked.getmore4less wrote: »Are you part time? min holidays is 28 for full time (5days.)
there are limited cases where holiday can be paid as you go but it must be itemised seperately and be 12.07%
If the 8 BHs are in addition, then probably the employer would not be open those days in any case and therefore the OP could not work them in any case.0 -
Owain_Moneysaver wrote: »Employers are required by law to provide a minimum number of days paid holiday (and make the employee take it) and cannot pay in lieu of that.
"Holiday pay should be paid for the time when you actually take your holiday. Your employer cannot include an amount for holiday pay in your hourly rate (called 'rolled-up holiday pay'). If your current contract still includes rolled-up pay, you and your employer should renegotiate it."
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Timeoffandholidays/DG_10034711
This is only guidance not law. Rolled up holiday pay can still be in your hourly rate as long as it is clearly shown on the payslip, is two separate payments 1) hourly rate 2) holiday pay
Employers should not really operate new contracts on this basis as it's only a matter of time the law is changed to completley exclude rolled up holiday pay.0 -
Hi thanks for the replys.
I work mon to fri from 6am - 8am so 5 days but not full time, i always work my bank holiday days as get double pay!
I am wondering whether it is worth me asking for more money and not taking the holiday days so would i minus off 20 days pay and see what it gives me..ill do a calculation now to see as been meaning to do this for ages now!!
ok so i earn £3328 a year from this job (2nd job)
If i minus off 20 days holiday pay this is £256
If I earnt say £8 an hour i would then earn £4160 a year..taking away the holiday i would lose which would be £320 i would earn £3840..so better off by £512..
Does that sound right?! I know some will say but you wont take your holiday as you wont put the money aside etc but i would as very good with savings..we have numerous ones! of course the £8 is a guess and i have no idea what this other person is getting paid but that's one ive picked as a rough figure to go by..
I can't lose if they say yes can i?0 -
This is only guidance not law. Rolled up holiday pay can still be in your hourly rate as long as it is clearly shown on the payslip, is two separate payments 1) hourly rate 2) holiday pay
Employers should not really operate new contracts on this basis as it's only a matter of time the law is changed to completley exclude rolled up holiday pay.
and from the link above
"Rolled-up holiday pay
Holiday pay should be paid for the time when you actually take your holiday. Your employer cannot include an amount for holiday pay in your hourly rate (called 'rolled-up holiday pay'). If your current contract still includes rolled-up pay, you and your employer should renegotiate it."
i'm pretty certain your employer HAS to pay you for holidays as and when you take them, you can't do rolled up anymoreNonny mouse and Proud!!
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Amor et metus. Lac? Sugar? Quisque massa vel duo? (stolen from a lovely forumite!)0 -
Forget direct gov find me the employment law that states you cannot pay rolled up holiday pay. I have questioned this with many employmet law solicitors which all confirm the same. You can pay rolled up holiday as long as it is clearly marked as two rates.
Gabyjane - you must take at least 5.6 weeks off work regardless of how the holiday is paid.0 -
Sorry just to add, this article sums up rolled up holiday pay nicely;
http://www.personneltoday.com/articles/2006/04/11/34868/rolled-up-holiday-pay.html0 -
Hi thanks for the replys.
I work mon to fri from 6am - 8am so 5 days but not full time, i always work my bank holiday days as get double pay!
I am wondering whether it is worth me asking for more money and not taking the holiday days so would i minus off 20 days pay and see what it gives me..ill do a calculation now to see as been meaning to do this for ages now!!
ok so i earn £3328 a year from this job (2nd job)
If i minus off 20 days holiday pay this is £256
If I earnt say £8 an hour i would then earn £4160 a year..taking away the holiday i would lose which would be £320 i would earn £3840..so better off by £512..
Does that sound right?! I know some will say but you wont take your holiday as you wont put the money aside etc but i would as very good with savings..we have numerous ones! of course the £8 is a guess and i have no idea what this other person is getting paid but that's one ive picked as a rough figure to go by..
I can't lose if they say yes can i?
You should be getting 5.6 weeks(28 days) for the 5 day week not 20days
Fix that first.
edit: what holidays do the full timers get?
rolled up or paid it will be the same.
My OH gets rolled up holidays, so the NHS think it is OK.0
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