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London weekend on the cheap for one adult and 2 kids 24th April one night

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bluenose1
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Dear all,
Have booked weekend to London as my husband is in the Police and on nights and it saves us worrying about being quiet during the day while he sleeps. Don’t normally go on hols without him so rather apprehensive. Thanks to advise on this site I have already booked my bargain hotel.
Would welcome any comments on how I could improve on my plans so far. Don’t mind paying extra if it is worth it. Haven't got a clue about visiting London so any local knowledge/tips woud be really appreciated.

This is my actual/anticipated spend so far
1. Family and Friends Railcard (25% discount with code on this site.) £19.50
2. Train –Liverpool to Euston return £40.55. (Saved £26 on prices without F and F so already paid for itself.)
[STRIKE]
3. Leave one suitcase at Euston on arrival while sightseeing (Saturday) = £8.50

[/STRIKE] Scrapping that idea and backpacks to be used, see advise below
4. Home Bargains drinks/snacks bought to eat on train £3.00
5. [STRIKE]Travel railcard zone1- 6 Saturday £7.50 adult, £2.00 child(age 13). One free(6 yr old) =£9.50[/STRIKE] Now know I need to use my F and F to buy Zone 1-9 + Watford Junction £9.40 adult and £7.10 child (age 13)
6. London Eye (fast track) - 900 Airmiles converted from Tesco Clubcard -£7.50 in vouchers = £0.00
7[STRIKE]. London dungeon 630 Airmiles converted from Tesco Clubcard -£5.25 in vouchers = £0.00 [/STRIKE] Decided that may be too scary, see below,
[STRIKE]8. Probably Boots meal deal to eat in Park on arrival = £10 (actually might have enough in points)[/STRIKE] Maybe Tesco, Sainsburys etc instead.
8. Dinner in London using one of the restaurants that take Clubcard vouchers, my favourite up to now is More, Riverside. Drinks £20
9. Hotel booked in Jury’s Inn Watford for 3 of us. Excellent reviews on trip advisor, and 20 minutes from Euston. £35
10. Breakfast Sunday possibly in hotel, though open to possibilities - £20
11.[STRIKE]Travel railcard zone 1-6 Saturday £7.50 adult, £2.00 child (age 13). One free =£9.50[/STRIKE] See above
13. [STRIKE]Leave one suitcase at Euston while sightseeing (Sunday) = £8.50[/STRIKE]See above
12. [STRIKE]Lunch Sunday – another Boots meal deal?? [/STRIKE]£10
Tesco etc eat in park.
13. Not sure what to do about eating evening meal as we get on the train at Euston at 5pm???
14. Want to go on the Clipper but not sure if to use Airmiles £2.60(tesco Clubcard) for cruise or just use it for travel between stops. Think I will go on cruise using Airmiles
14 Intend to see
· Houses of Parliament
· Big Ben
· Buckingham Palace
· Museums (though not sure which ones)
· Hamley’s probably not, based on advise below,
· [STRIKE]Harrods [/STRIKE] definitely not, based on advise below,
· Parks (which are nice for picnic lunch)
· Tower bridge
· St Paul’s Cathedral
Just thought I would also like to go to Westminster Abbey



Total cost so far £194.05. I fully expect to spend quite a bit more than this.
I am doing a car boot sale with my sons in the next few weeks to help pay for the weekend, though mainly as I am fed up with the clutter in our house. Hopefully a win win.
I have just sold a Jet that my son never plays with on ebay for £25 so that is going to our London fund.
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  • I would investigate a PAYG Oyster card for yourself and possibly the little one - from the sounds of it you're not planning on travelling outside of Zones 1 and 2 (which pretty much covers the extended central London area) so you're wasting money on buying a travelcard for Zones 3, 4, 5 and 6 which you won't use.

    Basically, you 'buy' it for £10 (or any amount above that in intervals of £5) which is then loaded on to your new card as credit. As you travel around London, the balance on your card decreases based on your journey - so if you're only making a journey entirely in Zone 1, you'll be charged less than a longer journey spanning more zones. The clever bit, though, is that the fares are set to be cheaper than cash-only fares, but as soon as you reach the equivalent Travelcard amount per day, you stop getting charged.

    So, if you only make one journey per day (or decide to walk - the Tube stations are much closer than they seem particularly in Zone 1), you'll be charged less than your travelcard amount - but if you travel a lot more each day, you won't be charged any more than what you would have spent on your travelcard. At the end of your trip, you can either keep it for future visits to the capital (the credit never expires as far as I know) or hand it back in to get the remaining credit back. Alternatively there are 'dump boxes' in the larger stations where your remaining credit is donated to various charities.

    And, if you do venture into the more exotic (!) Zones, you will be charged slightly more on your Oyster card - but if you don't, you'll save money on the Travelcard price.

    Hope that makes sense and helps you out!
  • HOWMUCH
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    Could you not put clean clothes for Sunday in backpacks and you and 13year old take it in turns this would save £17. Look at lunch from M&S I think you would get it cheaper than boots cos they do basic sarnis at just over a £1 and theres Tesco express dotted around so you could possible do it from there too.
    Why pay full price when you may get it YS ;)
  • bluenose1
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    I would investigate a PAYG Oyster card for yourself and possibly the little one - from the sounds of it you're not planning on travelling outside of Zones 1 and 2 (which pretty much covers the extended central London area) so you're wasting money on buying a travelcard for Zones 3, 4, 5 and 6 which you won't use.


    Hope that makes sense and helps you out!

    Thanks, just trying to get my head around travelling in London.
    I thought cos I was travelling to/from Watford I would need a zone 6 travelcard. I am under the impression that this means I will pay £7.50 for myself, £2 for my 13 year old son and the 7 year old would be free. As I am travelling of a weekend there is no off peak so we can use them anytime.
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  • bluenose1 wrote: »
    I thought cos I was travelling to/from Watford I would need a zone 6 travelcard. As I am travelling of a weekend there is no off peak so we can use them anytime.
    Ah, my apologies, I missed the location of your hotel! In that case it's likely that even if you did get an Oyster card you would be hitting the equivalent travelcard fare anyway - so it would be logistically easier just to buy travelcards.

    For clarification, though, technically at the weekend there is no 'peak' - from 19:00 on Friday to around 04:00 Monday is all considered 'off-peak' so it's technically incorrect to say there is no off-peak - although I realise I am being unnecessarily pedantic about this!
  • susancs
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    edited 20 February 2010 at 3:53PM
    Hi, as you will be staying beside Watford Junction station, you need a zone 1-8 plus Watford Junction travel card, as 1-6 will not cover you for your journey to or from Watford Junction to Euston, as Watford Junction is outside zone 8 in the special fares zone. Your youngest will travel free and your eldest can get a child travelcard. Here is the link showing what fares you will pay wth your family and friends rail card.
    http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/faresandtickets/oneand3daytickets/11696.aspx

    I would agree with the above poster that as you are only staying one night, you would be better off just taking back packs and saving the price and time involved on storing and collecting your suitcase at Euston. You may decide it is easier to return to your hotel via another tube/train combination route and you have limited yourself by storing lugguage at Euston. There are cloakrooms at the NH and Science museums and it used to cost about £1 to leave a single item there, so may be worth considering this.

    Your 6 year old may be a bit scared at the Dungeons as my 13 year old and friend were recently and they are not usually of a nervous dispostition. It is very dark and staff are all in character-do not want to say more, as do not want to spoil it for you. We have Merlin passes so can go using these, but my 8 year old will never consider going after hearing about it from friends and family.

    The London Eye is on the Thames Embankment and you can see the House of Parliament and Big Ben on the other side of the River. You can get the boat from beside there to London bridge pier and from there it is a short walk to the Dungeons. You can also visit the Tower from there. You can get the older type no 15 London red bus from there to Marble Arch, just using your travel card and it goes past a lot of the London attractions such as St Pauls, Law Courts, Trafalgar Square, Eros on its way to Marble Arch. You could get off before Marble Arch near Oxford Circus and walk from there to Hamleys. So I would combine all these on the same day. It is also worth getting to the eye as the attraction opens to save on queuing time. Unless your train arrives very early in the morning I would probably leave this until Sunday.

    On the Sunday you would probably be as quick to get the train from Watford Junction to Euston, change platforms and get the tube (Northern Line line) direct to Waterloo station for the Eye. There is a Sainsburys Express across the road from Waterloo station if you want to get some meal deal sandwiches, crisps and drinks for lunch later. You would need to check the journey planner on the www.tfl.gov.uk site to check train times so that you arrive at Waterloo for about 9.30am. Also check out the rail works as a lot of lines have work on them over weekends and parts may be shut, so this will cause delays.

    On Saturday you could get the Victoria Line from Euston to Victoria and it is about a 10 minute walk from there to visit Buckingham Palace. On your return it is only 2 stops on the circle or district lines from there to South Kensington for the Natural History, Victoria and Albert and Science Museums which are all beside each other. Both the NH and Science had nice restaurants if you want to eat there. If you get time, it is about a 20 minute walk from the museums to Kensington Gardens to see the Albert Memorial, Albert Hall in front and visit the Diana memorial Peter Pan park. You can walk from there into Hyde Park and see the Elfin Oak. You may see horse riders on rotten row in Hyde Park too. If you would rather you can instead get the train one stop from South Kensington after the museums one stop to Knightsbridge for Harrods. Just be warned that Harrods will probably be very crowded by this time and my girls get very fed up with the slow going due to crowds when we have been to Harrods.
    http://www.royalparks.org.uk/parks/kensington_gardens/diana_playground.cfm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfin_Oak
  • We are going to London for that wekend to see a show and stay overnight, did you know it will be very busy as its the London marathron weekend..... we didn't until we tried to book a few hotels and they where fully booked but found one in the end
  • susancs
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    Of course the London Marathon is Sunday 25th-I should have clicked earlier as we are going to support friends who are in it. OP I am afraid that this does mean that London will be really busy over that weekend, both attraction and transport wise . On the Sunday some of the tube stations may be closed for a time to ease congestion (though usually only Westminster). It also means as the Marathan starts for some at 9am in Greenwich that a lot of people will be up early and visiting attractions in between viewing points on the route. Sunday moring before say 11.30am is usually a great time to visit places as quieter. Waterloo will be exceptionally busy with families saying goodbye to runners, before they board trains to the starting point. You will probably need to allow for longer queueing times for tickets for the eye and to get on to it and the same applies to the Dungeons, so may need to adjust you plans and drop some to allow for this. If you are arriving very early on Saturday morning, it may be worth doing the Eye etc then, as hopefully the Marathon runners and families staying in London, may arrive later in the morning.
  • terryw
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    Breakfast at the nearest Wetherspoons (check their webpage for location).

    If the kids are boys, the Imperial War Museum is a must.
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  • bluenose1
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    Holy sh*t. I didn't know it was the London marathon. No wonder loads of the hotels I was looking at were booked up.

    The more I get told about London the less I feel I know (not sure if that makes sense)
    I assume the Marathon goes past all the attractions I want to see, so I may struggle to get to them. Do the roads all get blocked off.

    We are arriving lunch time Saturday. Not too sure what order to do things now. May head for the all the queue places that day ie London Eye, museum etc. Though was thinking about getting to the London Eye first thing Sunday (another dilemma) Not too sure if I will go to the London Dungeon now as it does sound quite scary. Was going to go to Harrods and Hamleys on the Saturday as noticed they were open until 8pm but may be better to leave it until the Sunday.

    Back to the drawing board.
    Though from your advise so far I now know

    1. Backpacks instead of suitcase.
    2. I will get Zone 1 -8 adult travel card, child travel card and the youngest will travel free
    3. Meal deals from Tesco, MandS etc

    I suppose anything we miss out we can do again. If I could cope with a next time.

    My backpack is going to be full of your tips and maps.

    Any more advise gratefully received.
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  • Hello Bluenose

    Random thoughts that sprung to my mind:

    The marathon route shouldn't affect the imperial war museum too much if you decide to go there, the station you want is Lambeth North although you can use Elephant and Castle instesd. Tubes will be loads busier but this area should be OK.

    If you don't already have a mini A-Z (you won't need bigger than that as you are sticking within zone 1-2 (except hotel) then print out a series of useful maps to get you from one place to the other from multimap, google maps or streetmap.

    With the exception of the British Museum and the Imperial War Museum - the biggies are all around South Kensington station. They are all free to get in (as I am sure you know) but special exhibitions are extra. I went to one at the V&A a couple of weeks ago called decode, loads of interactive digital displays that kids might enjoy (not sure when it ends though) and the Science and Natural History Museums are there which are obviously always a hit with kids - Science has more stuff to play with and a brilliant shop.

    Personally I would rather poke my eyeballs out than go to Harrods (vastly overpriced - even compared to other London dept stores - and a living hell) but if you do really want to you I would suggest either as early or as late as possible. If you want to go for a big swanky department store than I would go for Harvey Nic's or Selfridges.

    I would do Buckingham Palace first if you do it on marathon day, as the Marathon ends in Green Park (beside Buckingham Palace) it will get crazy very, very quickly.

    Hyde Park is good for a picnic lunch (also not far from buckingham palace), it can get busy but there is so much space that it doesn't really matter too much. You can also walk to the museums from there (or leap on the tube at Hyde Park Corner if you want to make the most of your travelcards) Hyde Park also has pedalos (check what date they start up). Regents Park is prettier and has more exciting ducks and waterfowl (and if you decided to do the Zoo instead of some of the other things it is there)

    If you are on facebook, hunt out a group called unusual london - people try to highlight hidden gems.

    Phew - am rambling.....
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