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college / training courses on benefits?

Hi
After 17 years made redundant in sept.
If I cant find work, is there any training or college etc that I can attend with their blessing?
About to use my react training, but what after that?

Thanks
Nick
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  • dmg24
    dmg24 Posts: 33,920 Forumite
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    You can attend college on a part time basis whilst on JSA, but must be willing to give it up if it interferes with jobseeking. You may be eligible for a fee reduction if you are on IB JSA.
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  • aj2703
    aj2703 Posts: 876 Forumite
    You can get funding to do courses, i think it's upto £3500 but don't quote me on it. The maximum you can spend doing them is 15 3/4hrs per week. You officially do a full time course at college as technically you should be looking for work. It very much depends on what you want to do as to what will be avaliable.
  • dookar
    dookar Posts: 1,654 Forumite
    aj2703 wrote: »
    The maximum you can spend doing them is 15 3/4hrs per week.

    No.

    OP your course must be part time. Where do you live? If in England and Wales and your course is funded by the learning and skills council then your course must be fewer than 16 hours per week. Scotland has a different organisation, the name of which I forget, but the rules are the same.

    Should your course not be so funded, you need to find out how it is classified by the educational establishment. If they consider it to be part time then you're good.

    If it is a part time course, then you can construct your pattern of availability around the course, providing you still show reasonable prospects of finding employment, and the course can have no affect on your JSA, neither can you be required to to abandon the course
  • aj2703
    aj2703 Posts: 876 Forumite
    dookar wrote: »
    No.

    OP your course must be part time. Where do you live? If in England and Wales and your course is funded by the learning and skills council then your course must be fewer than 16 hours per week. Scotland has a different organisation, the name of which I forget, but the rules are the same.

    Should your course not be so funded, you need to find out how it is classified by the educational establishment. If they consider it to be part time then you're good.

    If it is a part time course, then you can construct your pattern of availability around the course, providing you still show reasonable prospects of finding employment, and the course can have no affect on your JSA, neither can you be required to to abandon the course

    My apologies, dunno why but i meant part time officially not full time. And i am right in it being 15 3/4 hrs. At least that is what the lady at the JC said to me.
  • dmg24
    dmg24 Posts: 33,920 Forumite
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    aj2703 wrote: »
    My apologies, dunno why but i meant part time officially not full time. And i am right in it being 15 3/4 hrs. At least that is what the lady at the JC said to me.

    Sorry, you're not. dookar's info is correct.
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  • dookar
    dookar Posts: 1,654 Forumite
    aj2703 wrote: »
    My apologies, dunno why but i meant part time officially not full time. And i am right in it being 15 3/4 hrs. At least that is what the lady at the JC said to me.

    With the greatest respect to the lady at the JC she has no right to be saying that. JCP employee experts to determine these things.

    Whilst it would be natural to deal in hours, half hours and quarter hours, the limit (for the courses I described) is 16 hours. So if a course exists which is 15 hours and 59 minutes and 59 seconds then it's part time. If a course exists that is not funded as I described and the student spends one hundred hours per week on it yet the college classifies it as part time then part time it is.

    Yes, there are some extremes here but they are purely to demonstrate a point.
  • aj2703
    aj2703 Posts: 876 Forumite
    dmg24 wrote: »
    Sorry, you're not. dookar's info is correct.


    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: I forgot you are doing one of these courses arn't you.
  • aj2703
    aj2703 Posts: 876 Forumite
    dookar wrote: »
    With the greatest respect to the lady at the JC she has no right to be saying that. JCP employee experts to determine these things.

    Whilst it would be natural to deal in hours, half hours and quarter hours, the limit (for the courses I described) is 16 hours. So if a course exists which is 15 hours and 59 minutes and 59 seconds then it's part time. If a course exists that is not funded as I described and the student spends one hundred hours per week on it yet the college classifies it as part time then part time it is.

    Yes, there are some extremes here but they are purely to demonstrate a point.


    Agreed and i see your point. But officially if they are to fund a course for you, to go on the course it should be titled as a part time course and not require you to officially spend more then (ok what you say) 16 hours a week on. If they find out you have misled them in regards to this they can stop your benefit as it would be deemed you are not spending enough time trying to find employment.
  • aj2703
    aj2703 Posts: 876 Forumite



    Full-time Study

    If you are studying full-time, except in very limited circumstances it is not possible to claim either type of JSA. You may be able to claim Income Support instead. Get advice on this.
    "Full-time" means a course which the college describes as full-time, or if you have more than 16 hours per week (12 hours if you are under 19) teaching. If you are aged 25+ and have been unemployed for more than 2 years, you may be able to do a full-time employment related course for up to a year and still get JSA.
    Part-time Study

    It is possible to claim JSA whilst studying part-time if the course has less than 16 hours teaching per week and:-
    • you are willing and able to re-arrange the hours of your course in order to take up employment, immediately if necessary, and
    • you have been in receipt of JSA, Incapacity Benefit or Income Support because you are sick or disabled or you have been on a training programme, for a period of 3 months prior to the course starting, or for a total of 3 months out of the previous 6 if you were working temporarily in between.
    If you cannot fulfil these requirements you might still be able to claim JSA but will have to satisfy all the normal strict rules regarding being available for and actively seeking work. In practice this may be difficult.
    The rules around studying and claiming JSA are complex. Seek advice if you are considering starting a course whilst claiming JSA.

    Just pulled this off the net. Seems you are right about the hours. Maybe she said 15 3/4hrs to save any confusion.
  • dookar
    dookar Posts: 1,654 Forumite
    Seriously. I'm well versed in the law. It was my job.

    I don't mean to blow my own trumpet but you should believe me before anything you find on the net. Yes, It looks like you found it on the JCP website but I guarantee they have either simplified it or not consulted someone who knows. Like me.
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