We'd like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum... Read More »
We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. See the Community Noticeboard for more info. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
Premium Bonds, can someone explain them to me please?
Options

dippy-dora_2
Posts: 340 Forumite
Hi, I keep seeing in peoples signatures that they are getting premium bonds with their savings.
Is this preferable to just putting into a savings account?
Do you have to keep a premium bond for so long, or can you cancel it and get your money?
I really don't know too much, if anything, about them - how to get one, what the advantages are etc.
All answers appreciated, thank you.
Is this preferable to just putting into a savings account?
Do you have to keep a premium bond for so long, or can you cancel it and get your money?
I really don't know too much, if anything, about them - how to get one, what the advantages are etc.
All answers appreciated, thank you.
Official DFW Nerd 071/£2 saver=£10
Argos Bill £100+
Debt Free/Fat Free 4st 4lb gone
Argos Bill £100+
Debt Free/Fat Free 4st 4lb gone
0
Comments
-
0
-
It's only preferable if you're a higher rate tax payer imo.0
-
pkrnts wrote:It's only preferable if you're a higher rate tax payer imo.
Also preferable if you want a chance of winning £1m. I'm not into all this 3% average return/high rate/low rate tax nonsense, premium bonds are just a fun investment vehicle. It's a perfect addition (for me anyway) as part of a diverse portfolio of assets.0 -
I dont like premium bonds. Average return (winnings = return) is around 3%. Yes you can gamble for a win but if you want to do that, stick it in a higher earning investment and spend the profit on lottery tickets!I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.0
-
I agree with the sentiment dunstonh, but the lottery only pays out 40% of receipts - so you'd have to earn 3%/.4 = 7.5% net to beat premium bonds!I'm an Investment Manager. Any comments I make on this board should be not be construed as advice, and are for general information purposes only.0
-
A few points re. 'explaining' Premium Bonds
1) They are not 'investments' - they are a form of collective deposit account.
2) Other deposit accounts pay considerably more as a percentage of the money held (eg Most pay out at least 4.5% but Premium bonds only pay 3%)
3) To generate a few larger prizes, most prizes (94.4%) are only £50 and most of the rest (5%) are only £100 - leaving a tiny fraction (0.6% or prize 1 in 168) of 'higher' value.
http://www.nsandi.com/products/pb/rates.jsp
4) To get '3%' you need to win an 'average' prize of £60. But the 'average prize' is meaningless because there are no £60 prizes - just nearly 19 prizes in 20 of £50.
5) The longer you hold Premium Bonds for two things happen:
- Your chances of winning a large prize do increase very slightly over time but this chance always remains very low (and therefore near to '0%')
- Your chances of being 'further and further' behind the 'average' payout of 3% pa as time pases increase also - but start high are soon very near to '100%'
6) The more Premium Bonds you hold, therefore, the more likely you are to have disappointing returns.
7) 'Realistic' returns on large holdings (eg £30K) of Bonds is now about 90% of the stated return of 3% - that is 2.63%*
*This can be worked out as 99.4% of prizes are £50/£100 only
-these are 87% by value - therefore: 87% / 99.4% = 87.5% * 3% = 2.63%
8) Even a 40% taxpayer recieves 2.7% after tax from a 4.5% gross paying account. Thus even higher rate 'investors' in Premium bonds do no better than by holding an instant access savings account available from most banks. Basic rate taxpayers would do worse than a savings account on this basis.
From this vantage (which is an opinion only) everyone should hold premium bonds in the minmum amount allowed (currently £100, but I still have £1) on the off (very 'off') chance of winning any prize at all and should 'invest' any extra savings into a high street savings account (for low risk, certain returns, and access to money) or, more adventurously, should save into a geniune form of 'investment' in the knowledge of the qualified risks involved (eg shares)
There may be some advisers who would recommend PBs on the basis of overall 'tax-planning' of course, but I haven't heard of this.
Avoid!.....under construction.... COVID is a [discontinued] scam0 -
I've never won anything
think I should return them and invest the money properly!!!
0 -
Thanks for your replys, and the links which I'll take a gander at.
Seems you either love or hate premium bonds.
I might consider just the one and see how it goes for me..I might win on mine!Official DFW Nerd 071/£2 saver=£10
Argos Bill £100+
Debt Free/Fat Free 4st 4lb gone0 -
As the numbers are generated randomly each bond has an equal chance of winning a prize every month, irrespective of how long it has been held. The number of bonds you hold may increase the number of chances you have to win, but nothing else.0
-
If you can afford its a chance, very small, but a chance, better than the lottery, as you get your cash back, allowing for inflation of course.0
This discussion has been closed.
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply

Categories
- All Categories
- 350.9K Banking & Borrowing
- 253.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 453.6K Spending & Discounts
- 244K Work, Benefits & Business
- 598.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 176.9K Life & Family
- 257.2K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.6K Read-Only Boards