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Property Magnate's house buying tips

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Now for some real advice on house buying aimed at First Time Buyers.

Research. Research. Research! Do it! Don’t believe what an estate agent says – they are sales people acting in the interest of their customers who are the sellers not you!

How?

1. Your Budget
Use 3.5 times salary plus a deposit of 5 to 10% of this amount. If you haven’t got the deposit or can’t find somewhere within this value you can’t afford to buy! Do not stretch yourselves to 5 or 6 times salary or get an interest only mortgage. Given your future earnings potential, could you afford the repayments if the interest rates doubled which could happen over the mortgage term. Then, get your mortgage offer in place ready to proceed quickly when you find the right place.

2. Price Assessment
a. What is the typical wage in the area – check local papers and employment agencies. A sensible maximum mortgage is 3.5 times salary . Add 10% and you have what the typical house price should be.
b. Research rental prices. Take the weekly rent for similar properties and add three zeros to see what the house is worth. Eg. If the house rents for £800 a month it’s weekly rent is about £200. Add three zeros and you get £200,000 as a value. Renting should be more expensive than buying. If monthly rents are cheaper than mortgage payments for similar property then the market has gone bad!

3. Price Trend
Check out what houses have sold for in the last 5 years using the various free house price websites. If there has been a very fast rise in prices ask why? Is there a new train station nearby? Is there some massive redevelopment? If not then it may have been an investors hotspot. Avoid these areas as the prices may have been pumped up by amateur investors. Do not fall for the Estate Agent claptrap that prices will continue to rise so buy now or you won’t be able to afford it next month. The market is cyclical ie. it goes up and down.

4. Look for the marginal sales.
Just because one house on the street has sold for a ridiculous amount that does not mean the price is achievable for all the houses. Yet, many sellers will take that view and inflate their asking price. Don’t be suckered into believing that these marginal sales reflect the true value of the property.

5. Look for Flippers.
Houses may be bought then put on the market again very quickly with a view to the new seller making a quick profit. They may have bought the property at “Below Market Value” by paying cash etc. and then done some basic work such as a new kitchen/bathroom and a paint job. Then, it will be back at the market at an inflated price. For example, they may buy for £150k, spend £20k and put it back on the market for £220k. A naïve buyer may put an offer in for £200k and think they are getting a bargain whereas the seller may have just made a tidy £20k after fees. They rely on naïve buyers … don’t be one! Find out when the property last sold and what it sold for.

6. Know your seller
How long has the Property been on the market? How desperate are they to sell? Why are they selling? Are they in a chain? What did they pay? How much mortgage do they have on the property? Use the Land Registry website to find out this last point. If they have a very large mortgage they will be less open to offers as they want to cover their debts. But if they bought 10 years ago and they have a very small or no mortgage there is more room for negotiation.

7. The Offer
The asking price is just a figure made up by the Estate Agent and Seller based on what they think the current market will take. The market relies on “Normalisation of the Abnormal”. In other words, buyers will accept a selling price today that five years ago would have been ridiculous. Naïve buyers will use phrases such as “That’s a good price!” when a few years ago it would have been a silly price.
If you are not embarrassed by your first offer it is too high. Some say that your first offer should be 10% below the asking price with a view to achieve 5 to 7% below as a sale price. Rubbish!!! Use the price assessment techniques to determine the true value. Then, offer 20% less than this! Yes… really! If it is refused ask the agent if you can view other properties and do so. When they come back to you looking for an increase then you can start negotiating. There are still plenty of naïve people paying prices they can’t afford for overvalued property. Therefore, expect to lose properties to these over-enthusiastic buyers. Don’t worry though. As people become more aware of the price bubble and the future direction of interests rates education will improve and so will your success as a buyer.

Whatever you do: DO NOT PAY BUBBLE PRICES!
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  • Wickedkitten
    Wickedkitten Posts: 1,868 Forumite
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    2 and 7 sounds like advice for if you live in London.


    And also if your weekly rent is 200, adding two zeroes gives you 20,000, not 200,000.
    It's not easy having a good time. Even smiling makes my face ache.
  • Ian_W
    Ian_W Posts: 3,778 Forumite
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    Sounds like housepricecrashwatch.co.uk in absentia to moi. More like Propaganda Magnet than reality based.

    Still, thanks for your helpful advice and taking time out from managing your large portfolio to share it with us plebs.
  • tomstickland
    tomstickland Posts: 19,538 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    The weekly rent --> house price thing was quite useful.

    However
    a. What is the typical wage in the area – check local papers and employment agencies. A sensible maximum mortgage is 3.5 times salary . Add 10% and you have what the typical house price should be.
    !!!!!! is a typical wage?
    Happy chappy
  • AndrewSmith
    AndrewSmith Posts: 2,871 Forumite
    Hey Ian,

    Do you think I thould copyright my thread?

    lol
  • AndrewSmith
    AndrewSmith Posts: 2,871 Forumite
    Didn't think any estate agents had posted any house buying tips?

    Maybe I missed them.

    My sticky thread is based on 12 years of working on behalf of Buyers (mainly FTB) as a broker so I know he cant be referring to that.
  • Jorgan_2
    Jorgan_2 Posts: 2,270 Forumite
    Andrew, can you shed any light on what the typical wage may be?
    Yes,copyright your thread.

    Thanks to Property Magnate for enlightning to the house buying process, as an Estate Agent I have been in the dark for 14 years as to how I should go about my day to day business.
  • What is the typical wage? It depends where you are. Do your research.

    Is the property in a commuter area? Then it's more difficult to judge. But, look up the land registry data to see what the mortgages are like on properties nearby - it's an indication.

    Look at the major employers in the area. Phone up the Human Resources department? Are there any jobs going ... what do they pay? Look in the local paper - what are the advertised rates.

    Be creative in your research. Don't believe the Estate Agents.
  • Malky
    Malky Posts: 694 Forumite
    I believe the average wage in the UK is in the region of £23k. Unfortunately, most of us earn less.
  • McAzrael
    McAzrael Posts: 917 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Do not .... get an interest only mortgage.

    Given that there are lenders offering mortgages at lower fixed rates than some fixed rates offered on cash ISAs, are you absolutely sure that interest only mortgages are a bad idea?
  • AndrewSmith
    AndrewSmith Posts: 2,871 Forumite
    It is not possible without knowing the clients full situation, intentions for the property or having the necessary experience or qualifications in the field to make such a broad statement.

    There are situations and circumstances in which an interest only mortgage is wholly appropriate, Buyt to let for example or if the property is to be a short term investment.
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