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House Buying - Moneysaving Tips

Doozergirl
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edited 5 February 2014 at 5:32PM in House buying, renting & selling
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I have (even if I may say so myself) some excellent tips on how to negotiate with the Agents when looking to offer what you want to pay for the property

We have the “House Selling – Money Saving Tips” guide, but I have realised that we are sorely lacking in the House Buying equivalent.

There has already been demand from some users for AndrewSmith (Independent, Whole of Market Mortgage Advisor to the Stars) to deliver his top tips on how to negotiate with agents. So as per his offer on a separate thread, he has accidentally volunteered himself to start the ball rolling on what I am sure will be a very popular thread.

:D

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  • AndrewSmith
    AndrewSmith Posts: 2,871 Forumite
    There you go Doozer. Hows that?

    Andy
  • Doozergirl
    Doozergirl Posts: 34,074 Forumite
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    There you go Doozer. Hows that?

    Andy

    I think the number of Thanks you've had in the last two hours speak for themselves. :D

    But, for the record, I especially like the bit about using an intermediary (like you!) to make the offer or to do it in person at the Estate Agent's office. Should make things a lot clearer for a lot of people.

    You're a star for stepping up to the challenge - I wasn't sure how you'd react!

    :T Board Guides, make it a Sticky!!! :T
    Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
  • Joe_Bloggs
    Joe_Bloggs Posts: 4,535 Forumite
    @Andrew Smith.
    Thanks for that concise guide. How about these suggestion or something along the lines:-

    Check your files with a credit reference agency. Correct any mistakes.
    Do what you can to increase your credit worthyness.
    My Experian file had seven different addresses when I had only lived at two.
    Many lines of credit appeared to be open when they had been closed for years. I'm sure a credit check is part of the broker service,as is handling poor credit ratings. If a preliminarysearch is done before it can save time and the corrections can be put in place. I could be wrong but it is what I did.

    Get together an upto date collection of documents and facts regarding employment dates and similar stuff relevant to a mortgage application and ID check. I've no idea what these documents are but I'm sure a P60, passport and utility bills are better than a P45 and library ticket.

    Many people choose to have online statements for banking,services, credit cards, even mortgage payments. My previous lender refused to send a mortgage statement out as 'it was only done once a year'. My new lender would not accept a redemption quote as a mortgage statement. These were 'only handled by the solicitors'. In the end they examined my current account, for regular mortgage payments. I'm sure non of this would have happened if I had used a broker.

    J_B.
  • AndrewSmith
    AndrewSmith Posts: 2,871 Forumite
    Joe_Bloggs wrote:
    @Andrew Smith.
    Thanks for that concise guide. How about these suggestion or something along the lines:-

    Check your files with a credit reference agency. Correct any mistakes.
    Do what you can to increase your credit worthyness.
    My Experian file had seven different addresses when I had only lived at two.
    Many lines of credit appeared to be open when they had been closed for years. I'm sure a credit check is part of the broker service,as is handling poor credit ratings. If a preliminarysearch is done before it can save time and the corrections can be put in place. I could be wrong but it is what I did.

    Get together an upto date collection of documents and facts regarding employment dates and similar stuff relevant to a mortgage application and ID check. I've no idea what these documents are but I'm sure a P60, passport and utility bills are better than a P45 and library ticket.

    Many people choose to have online statements for banking,services, credit cards, even mortgage payments. My previous lender refused to send a mortgage statement out as 'it was only done once a year'. My new lender would not accept a redemption quote as a mortgage statement. These were 'only handled by the solicitors'. In the end they examined my current account, for regular mortgage payments. I'm sure non of this would have happened if I had used a broker.

    J_B.

    Thanks for that.

    It never hurts to carry out a simple credit search on yourself however just make sure that you dont do it too often.

    Prior to my initial meeting with any client I always ask them to provide the following:

    Driving License
    Passport
    3 year address history
    3 year work history
    3x payslips (latest)
    Latest p60
    last 3 bank statements
    Current mortgage details / original offer
    details of any outstanding loans/credit
    details of any credit problems in the past 6 years

    You are right though, some lenders will not accept internet screen dump bank statements, however many are now becoming more flexible on this. It really depends on the overall case.

    Cant say whether it would have happened via a broker or not but the chances are that the broker would have made an asessment of the case before submitting it and is likely to have already asked you for the documents.

    Yes I can indeed carry out credit searches for my clients however there is a charge currently of £8.95 to get and instant equifax report. If you feel as a client there is need to do this then it is a good idea, however there are cheaper ways of getting the reports, you just have to wait longer.

    Andy
  • Pal
    Pal Posts: 2,076 Forumite
    Apologies to everyone for deleting all the chatty posts but I think this thread is great, and wanted it to start off on a "serious" moneysaving footing.
    Thanks doozer, you are a pal.:)

    No, she most definitely is not. :)
  • Trust me this tips are right on, I didn't follow a a couple of them when I bought my house last year and I am struggling now
  • I just wiondered, when it says
    "An example of 'the norm' would be something like an asking price of £120,000 with your opening offers beginning at £105,000 - £108,000"
    what would be an not-so-low-as-to-embarrass-everybody-concerned offer on a more expensive house - say a 400K house for example? Is there a percentage thats a good guide, or a fixed amount of like 15K-20K thats sellers expect as an offer?

    We're about to buy our third house but its nevr been an issue for us before - our first house we bought as a new build with a fixed price and our second we got into a bidding war so ended up paying almost ful asking price (regretfully) - don't want to get it wrong this time!

    Thanks!
  • Bit of an afterthought:
    Also is it always assumed that your first offer, unless you say otherwise, is just sort of setting the stage an that'll you'll almost certainly come back with a higher offer after?
    i.e. Is it ok to turn down an offer on your house that was almost ok to you, presuming they'll come back with a higher offer, or is it risky?
  • What about making offers on a property that has just come onto the market? Obviously the vendor will be less inclined to accept lower offers, but whay sort of offer would be "reasonable" in these circumstances?
    I saw a light at the end of the tunnel - but it was just a guy with a torch bringing me more work...
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