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Need advice re fiances debts

moneysaver12
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edited 28 May 2009 at 4:11PM in Debt-free wannabe
My fiance is in a lot of debt, i have done a statement of affairs for him. He has been trying to get through to cccs and will continue to do so to get some advice, but i though i would post on here too and see if anyone can help. We are wanting to live together and rent a house together in the town where i live. At the moment i rent a house, but we would be looking for somewhere else. He has got two ccjs and has five defaults for his debts, as he has been missing payments.


Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet
Household Information
Number of adults in household........... 1
Number of children in household.........
Number of cars owned.................... company car
Monthly Income Details
Monthly income after tax................ 1300
Partners monthly income after tax....... 0
Benefits................................ 0
Other income............................ 0
Total monthly income.................... 1300
Monthly Expense Details
Mortgage................................ 180
Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 539
Rent.................................... 0
Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
Council tax............................. 80
Electricity............................. 40
Gas..................................... 40
Oil..................................... 0
Water rates............................. 40
Telephone (land line)................... 10
Mobile phone............................ 30
TV Licence.............................. 12
Satellite/Cable TV...................... 21
Internet Services....................... 5
Groceries etc. ......................... 200
Clothing................................ 20
Petrol/diesel........................... 30
Road tax................................ 0
Car Insurance........................... 0
Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0
Car parking............................. 0
Other travel............................ 0
Childcare/nursery....................... 0
Other child related expenses............ 0
Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
Pet insurance/vet bills................. 12
Buildings insurance..................... 12.5
Contents insurance...................... 12.5
Life assurance ......................... 0
Other insurance......................... 0
Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 20
Haircuts................................ 10
Entertainment........................... 200
Holiday................................. 0
Emergency fund.......................... 0
Total monthly expenses.................. 1514

Assets
Cash.................................... 0
House value (Gross)..................... 79000
Shares and bonds........................ 0
Car(s).................................. 0
Other assets............................ 0
Total Assets............................ 79000

Secured & HP Debts
Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
Mortgage...................... 29000....(180)......0
Secured Debt.................. 73000....(539)......0 This is including intrest, as the loan was 50k
Total secured & HP debts...... 102000....-.........-
Unsecured Debts
Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
Egg............................5973......298.......0
barclays.......................4064......0.........0
Great universal................500.......90........0
1st credit limited.............2209......0.........0
citi financial.................1709......85........0
barclays card..................2142......107.......0
Total unsecured debts..........16597.....580.......-

Monthly Budget Summary
Total monthly income.................... 1,300
Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 1,514
Available for debt repayments........... -264
Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 580
Amount short for making debt repayments. -794
Personal Balance Sheet Summary
Total assets (things you own)........... 79,000
Total HP & Secured debt................. -102,000
Total Unsecured debt.................... -16,597
Net Assets.............................. -39,597
Created using the SOA calculator at www.makesenseofcards.com.
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  • moneysaver12
    moneysaver12 Posts: 2,088 Forumite
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    bump..............
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  • searching_me
    searching_me Posts: 18,414 Forumite
    hi first of all welcome .. but i have to comment on the entertainment £200
    and food £200
    these can instantly be cut by staying in more and meal plans and thinking ahead im a family of nearly 4 and we hit £200 a month for food ...
    clothing can be cut for a couple of months and just wear what hes got ... haircut, is there way he can just buy a pair of clippers and do it himself at home ...
    just a few suggestions ...
    good luck xxx
    :)Still searching .....:)
  • Valli
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    edited 28 May 2009 at 3:41PM
    I would also question emergency fund - if £50 is being put to one side to pay for emergencies/rainy day well OP tell your fiance it is raining NOW.
    Searching me is right - need to cut down on food (buying lunches?) and entertainment. With a mortgage so low this is quite a sad SOA tbh.
    Don't put it DOWN; put it AWAY
    "I would like more sisters, that the taking out of one, might not leave such stillness" Emily Dickinson
    :heart:Janice 1964-2016:heart:

    Thank you Honey Bear
  • TotallyBroke
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    My fiance is in a lot of debt, i have done a statement of affairs for him. He has been trying to get through to cccs and will continue to do so to get some advice, but i though i would post on here too and see if anyone can help.

    We are wanting to live together and rent a house together in the town where i live. At the moment i rent a house, but we would be looking for somewhere else. He has got two ccjs and has five defaults for his debts, as he has been missing payments. Will he be selling his home or trying to rent it out?


    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet
    Household Information
    Number of adults in household........... 1
    Number of children in household.........
    Number of cars owned.................... company car
    Monthly Income Details
    Monthly income after tax................ 1300
    Total monthly income.................... 1300
    Monthly Expense Details
    Mortgage................................ 180
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 539
    Council tax............................. 80
    Electricity............................. 40These are both high for one person, try and get them lowered price comparison for cheaper deal
    Gas..................................... 40A above
    Water rates............................. 40Would a meter work out cheaper? Check the website and see
    Telephone (land line)................... 10
    Mobile phone............................ 30 Does he use all his free mins and texts if not then get a lower tariff
    TV Licence.............................. 12
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 21 Will need to go
    Internet Services....................... 5
    Groceries etc. ......................... 200 Way too much for one person, £50-100 is ample
    Clothing................................ 20 Charity shops or ask people to buy as gifts
    Petrol/diesel........................... 30
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 12 Is this the cheapest deal
    Buildings insurance..................... 12.5
    Contents insurance...................... 12.5
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 20
    Haircuts................................ 10 Will have to be cut back
    Entertainment........................... 200 Will need to be drastically reduced
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 50 The emergency is clearing the debts
    Total monthly expenses.................. 1564

    Assets
    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 79000
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 79000

    Secured & HP Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 29000....(180)......0
    Secured Debt.................. 73000....(539)......0 This is including intrest, as the loan was 50k
    Total secured & HP debts...... 102000....-.........-
    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Egg............................5973......298.......0
    barclays.......................4064......0.........0
    Great universal................500.......90........0
    1st credit limited.............2209......0.........0
    citi financial.................1709......85........0
    barclays card..................2142......107.......0
    Total unsecured debts..........16597.....580.......-

    Monthly Budget Summary
    Total monthly income.................... 1,300
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 1,564
    Available for debt repayments........... -264
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 580
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -844
    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 79,000
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -102,000
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -16,597
    Net Assets.............................. -39,597
    Created using the SOA calculator at www.makesenseofcards.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using IE browser.

    I'm not sure your OH can cut back enough to cover his debt commitments. You may as a couple be able to clear the debts but is that what you are willing to let happen.
    If OH rents out can they get enough in rent to cover the mortgage, secured loan, insurance and any other associated letting costs.
  • Valli
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    edited 28 May 2009 at 3:51PM
    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet
    Household Information
    Number of adults in household........... 1
    Number of children in household.........
    Number of cars owned.................... company car
    Monthly Income Details
    Monthly income after tax................ 1300
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 0
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 1300
    Monthly Expense Details
    Mortgage................................ 180
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 539
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 80
    Electricity............................. 40
    Gas..................................... 40
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 40
    Telephone (land line)................... 10
    Mobile phone............................ 30
    TV Licence.............................. 12
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 21
    Internet Services....................... 5
    Groceries etc. ......................... 200
    Clothing................................ 20
    Petrol/diesel........................... 30
    Road tax................................ 0
    Car Insurance........................... 0
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 12
    Buildings insurance..................... 12.5
    Contents insurance...................... 12.5
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 20
    Haircuts................................ 10
    Entertainment........................... 200
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 50
    Total monthly expenses.................. 1564

    Assets
    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 79000
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 79000

    Secured & HP Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 29000....(180)......0
    Secured Debt.................. 73000....(539)......0 This is including intrest, as the loan was 50k
    Total secured & HP debts...... 102000....-.........-
    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Egg............................5973......298.......0
    barclays.......................4064......0.........0
    Great universal................500.......90........0
    1st credit limited.............2209......0.........0
    citi financial.................1709......85........0
    barclays card..................2142......107.......0
    Total unsecured debts..........16597.....580.......-

    Monthly Budget Summary
    Total monthly income.................... 1,300
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 1,564
    Available for debt repayments........... -264
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 580
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -844
    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 79,000
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -102,000
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -16,597
    Net Assets.............................. -39,597
    Created using the SOA calculator at www.makesenseofcards.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using IE browser.

    If those were all halved and the emergency fund taken as full that would be £280 saved.
    If he cut sky too...

    What would be the plan re his house? Sell it? Is he looking for a new job in your town?

    Could your fiance not take on extra work/bar work (or similar)/get a lodger?

    Only bits but is he in the correct Council tax band and does he get the single occupancy discount of 25%?
    Don't put it DOWN; put it AWAY
    "I would like more sisters, that the taking out of one, might not leave such stillness" Emily Dickinson
    :heart:Janice 1964-2016:heart:

    Thank you Honey Bear
  • moneysaver12
    moneysaver12 Posts: 2,088 Forumite
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    hi first of all welcome .. but i have to comment on the entertainment £200
    and food £200
    these can instantly be cut by staying in more and meal plans and thinking ahead im a family of nearly 4 and we hit £200 a month for food ...
    clothing can be cut for a couple of months and just wear what hes got ... haircut, is there way he can just buy a pair of clippers and do it himself at home ...
    just a few suggestions ...
    good luck xxx

    Thankyou very much for your help, i think that food too could be cut down on and entertainment. I know that he is trying to do meal plans. With clothes that was kind of my estimate as he doesnt' really buy many clothes now a days. I will suggest to him about his hair.
    Married 09/09/09
  • moneysaver12
    moneysaver12 Posts: 2,088 Forumite
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    Valli wrote: »
    I would also question emergency fund - if £50 is being put to one side to pay for emergencies/rainy day well OP tell your fiance it is raining NOW.
    Searching me is right - need to cut down on food (buying lunches?) and entertainment. With a mortgage so low this is quite a sad SOA tbh.


    It was me that put the emergency fund in, which i have taken out now, as really he can't afford to save anything. The food is for the supermarket, he works from home most of the time unless he has to work away, so doesnt' buy lunches. I think that he knows himself that is it sad to be in this much debt. It appears that he was consoldating his credit cards by getting a loan and paying them off, but not cutting up the cards, which he has now done last year, and then paying the loan off but then doing it all again, till it has got to this point. This has been done over many many years.
    Married 09/09/09
  • moneysaver12
    moneysaver12 Posts: 2,088 Forumite
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    edited 28 May 2009 at 4:27PM
    I'm not sure your OH can cut back enough to cover his debt commitments. You may as a couple be able to clear the debts but is that what you are willing to let happen.
    If OH rents out can they get enough in rent to cover the mortgage, secured loan, insurance and any other associated letting costs.

    He can't sell the house as he has a loan securred on it, as that was his orginal plan and he was trying to sell it until he found this out. I will try to support my fiance but i don't want to take his debts on and also i am a student. Renting it out wouldn't cover the mortgage and the loan etc. We have thought about this, also it does need repairs and we dont' have the money. Also with so much debt i really don't know how he is going to pay it off he could still be paying it in his 80s.
    Married 09/09/09
  • moneysaver12
    moneysaver12 Posts: 2,088 Forumite
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    Valli wrote: »
    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet
    Household Information
    Number of adults in household........... 1
    Number of children in household.........
    Number of cars owned.................... company car
    Monthly Income Details
    Monthly income after tax................ 1300
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 0
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 1300
    Monthly Expense Details
    Mortgage................................ 180
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 539
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 80
    Electricity............................. 40
    Gas..................................... 40
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 40
    Telephone (land line)................... 10
    Mobile phone............................ 30
    TV Licence.............................. 12
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 21
    Internet Services....................... 5
    Groceries etc. ......................... 200
    Clothing................................ 20
    Petrol/diesel........................... 30
    Road tax................................ 0
    Car Insurance........................... 0
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 12
    Buildings insurance..................... 12.5
    Contents insurance...................... 12.5
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 20
    Haircuts................................ 10
    Entertainment........................... 200
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 50
    Total monthly expenses.................. 1564

    Assets
    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 79000
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 79000

    Secured & HP Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 29000....(180)......0
    Secured Debt.................. 73000....(539)......0 This is including intrest, as the loan was 50k
    Total secured & HP debts...... 102000....-.........-
    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Egg............................5973......298.......0
    barclays.......................4064......0.........0
    Great universal................500.......90........0
    1st credit limited.............2209......0.........0
    citi financial.................1709......85........0
    barclays card..................2142......107.......0
    Total unsecured debts..........16597.....580.......-

    Monthly Budget Summary
    Total monthly income.................... 1,300
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 1,564
    Available for debt repayments........... -264
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 580
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -844
    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 79,000
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -102,000
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -16,597
    Net Assets.............................. -39,597
    Created using the SOA calculator at www.makesenseofcards.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using IE browser.

    If those were all halved and the emergency fund taken as full that would be £280 saved.
    If he cut sky too...

    What would be the plan re his house? Sell it? Is he looking for a new job in your town?

    Could your fiance not take on extra work/bar work (or similar)/get a lodger?

    Only bits but is he in the correct Council tax band and does he get the single occupancy discount of 25%?

    He is in the lowest council tax band and he does get the discount.

    He has tried to sell it but then he found out because of the securred loan on it, he can't. He works from home with his job but does have to go out to sites sometimes and does have to work away from home, so getting a extra job wouldn't be possible as he can be told he has to work away at any time.

    We do want to live together and we are getting married in september. I will speak to him about cutting the things you have mentioned, also i will showing him this thread. Thankyou very much for your help
    Married 09/09/09
  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 36,722 Forumite
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    he desparately need to find out the APrs on all those unsecured accounts.

    Any bank charges, late payment charges, PPI he can reclaim. Can he get a lodger as the income is tax free?
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
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