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Hi,
I have come on this forum for expert advice.
We went on holidays in jan and on coming back realised that our house has suffered massive damage due to burst pipes. It is a 4 bedroom semidetached house and we had bought it last year only. All our stuff is new and is damaged due to water. Our house is insured with tesco home insurance with buildings cover that is unlimited and contents up to £32000.
Our neighbours saw water coming out of windows on 9th Jan and informed Police who had to break the door to release water. We came back from our holidays on 31 jan and realised about this accident. Tesco home insurance was informed and a loss adjuster came to asess the damage on 2/02/08. He told us that it will take about 4 months for the house to be restored and we can arrange alternate accomodation for which insurance will pay. We have finally shifted to the alternate accomodation yesterday. Also, the loss adjuster promised some ex-gratia payment which he said will be done the next done the next day. However, nothing has been done regarding that yet. He told us that we will have asbestos test in our house within a week and then drying work will start. However, nothing has been aranged for till date. He never answers our calls or e-mails. We have e-mailed him the entire list of our contents. I am really worried because cieling of my living room has also fallen and other cielings are at the verge of falling. On the top of that he doesn't seem bothered. No asbestos testing or electronic testing has been arranged yet.
Please advice how should I get hold of him and what should I do to proceed my claim? My loss adjuster is from Crawfords.
Sorry for this long message. Any views will be appreciated and thankfully recived.
Abhiman
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  • hello,

    i had similar problems with crawfords - see the attached thread. all i can say is keep contacting them and if you do not get satisfactory answers then contact the financial ombudsman to make a complaint. financial ombudsman were really helpful and it was only when they got involved that things started moving.

    best of luck
    loki x

    here is the link to the thread about crawfords: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1079203
    it's nice to be important but more important to be nice!! :kisses3:
  • abhiman
    abhiman Posts: 11 Forumite
    Many thanks for your reply. I am contacting them as much as possible. Today my Loss adjuster's secretary has given me the email of customer service manager of crawfords so I will write to her.
    This is causing me so much of trauma. Already, my house is ruined and the loss adjuster is being so indifferent.
    Any more advice will be appreciated.
  • dacouch
    dacouch Posts: 21,636 Forumite
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    Sorry to hear of your problem, Crawfords can be difficult sometimes however you should bear in mind that due to the freak weather conditions they will be inundated with work at the moment.

    I would suggest you by pass the loss adjuster as you will have no doubt found they are difficult to get hold of as they are out on site most days. Go straight to Tescos Claims and ask for a superviser. Explain the problems you are having and ask for their help, be polite during the call but concise. You should find they will be able to get things moving in no time.

    I would not bother writing to crawfords go straight to tescos

    Have they got you in accomadation yet?

    If you have more problems post them up here and we will all try and help.
  • Hello there

    I've been having EXACTLY the same issues with Crawford and Co and on the advice of dacouch, I went directly to Legal and General for help. Since speaking to them at the beginning of this week, we have actually made more progress in 4 days than Crawford have in the 5 weeks our claim has been ongoing - ours is only contents as our house was rented so you'd think it wouldn't have been so complicated!?!

    However, whilst I'm not happy with the way in which Crawford's have handled our claim I do understand that they are extremely busy - but that's no excuse for not answering your concerns and doesn't help to assure you at an already stressful time.

    I hope you get a more positive answer from them soon
  • dacouch
    dacouch Posts: 21,636 Forumite
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    I'm glad things are moving now Lidy Loo, I often by pass the loss adjusters as once they have done their initial reports etc and confirmed your covered they are another link in the chain so its often quicker to go straight to the Insurer as you can normally speak to the right person instantly not wait for them to be back in the office and you can send any correspondence straight to them for the issue of a cheque.

    Most Insurance professionals will tell you that loss adjusters are currently going through a transistion period. Its like most other industries they have all merged or bought each other out so there are few of them, they receive low fees and their are not enough qualified loss adjusters too go round. Add an incident like the snow we just had and it can really slow things down.

    I often find the Insurers claims staff are a bit more approachable and sympathetic which I'm pretty confident you will agree with me on
  • Definately agree with you there dacouch.

    In my (recent) experience, Legal and General were by far more approachable and made you feel like they actually cared about what had happened to you.

    Whilst I appreciate there's alot going on for the loss adjusters, they do come across as "number crunchers" rather than "customer service" and in my personal circumstance, our advisor is actually being trained whilst handling our (and a number of other) case. Not really comforting when you've got a total contents loss but then everyone's got to learn from somewhere I suppose. . . .

    I hope you get the same help from Tesco that we've had from Legal and General Abhiman; God knows it's stressful enough dealing with the loss without having someone to talk to about it!
  • Many thanks to Lindy Loo, Dacouch and princess loki for your advice. Yes we have moved in to our alternate accomodation on wednesday. Yesterday, my husband was finally able to speak to the loss adjuster after making 10 calls. He informed us that he has arranged an asbestos test for our house and we should be getting a call from the asbestos testing company within 24 hours to book the day. Also, he told us that he has submitted some quotes from builders and is waiting for insurance guys to get back to him which I haven't understood fully. Regarding ex-gratia payment he told us that Tesco has sent us a cheque at out home address but since the front door is half-sealed no letters are being delivered and I feel that he must have noticed that in his survey that thr is not place to get letters in. Also he assured us that he will be reading our case today.
    I still don't trust him and will be contacting claims deptt. of Tesco home insurance to find out what is happening with my claim.
    Can you also advice me that my house is totally wet and ruined presently. How can builders give quotations when it is not ready for building work or is it the builders who start drying work also.
    Sorry to be stupid but I 'm not aware of the system and procedures.
    Thanks once again for all your help. I am grateful to u guys.
    Abhiman
  • dacouch
    dacouch Posts: 21,636 Forumite
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    I'm not very impressed with your loss adjuster. Part of his job is to explain to you how everything works and whats happening next etc. I know how you are feeling as I had a big fire when I first bought a house.

    I recommend you speak to the loss adjuster about them paying for your post to be redirected they should agree to this if not have a quick chat with your postie and ask if he can drop yours at a neighboors (He/she will prob help out in the circumstances) alternatively when I had mine you can pick it up from the sorting office although this can cause delays.

    The Insurance company will need to get dryers (Dehumidfiers) into your home to dry the plaster etc out. I'm surprised they have not already got these in, it can take weeks and even months to dry out. (Advise the loss adjuster you will bill them for the cost of the electricity for the dryers).

    The builders can provide quotes while its wet but its highly likely that they or you will find other things that need doing at a later date so they Insurer will agree these at a later date.

    If you know a good local builder I personally would ask them to provide a quotation as its often easier than using the Insurance companies builders. The other advantage of your own builder is that if you want things put back in a slightly different way they are more likely to do it for you as long as it does not cost the builder extra. The Insurance company will not mind you using your own builder as long as their quote is equal or lower than their cheapest quote. (If your builder is higher than the cheapest quote they will often allow them to reduce their quote to match it).

    You will probably find a lot of your plaster has "Blown" the builders quotes will not always quotes to replace all of the plaster. I would recommend you go and check your walls so you know what plaster has blown and keep and eye on it as further plaster might blow. (You can check this yourself by knocking on plaster you know is good and then knocking on the plaster you think is blown, you will notice it sounds different) Although if your using your own builder it would be best for them to check, you are entitled to have the home in the same condition as if the claim had not happened so explain this to your builder so he finds as many things as possible.

    Ask the loss adjuster if he has done a "Schedule of Works" they don't always do this but do on bigger jobs. This is basically a list of all of the work that needs doing and a schedule of in what order and the timescales eg First instal fryers, second check wiring etc etc. You may find it helpful to see this so you know whats going on and timescales.

    I would also ask about having the home rewired or at the very least the damaged areas. They often just try and get away with getting an electrician to just test the wiring. If your not sure or happy consult an electrician for advice on this.

    You need to be asking the loss adjuster for an "Interim Payment" of say £500 to £2000 to allow you to go and buy some clothes etc

    Do not be embarrassed about asking for money or insisting things are done a certain way. You have insurance and it is designed to put you back in the position you were before the claim. The Insurers are entitled to keep their outlays to a minimum but if its damaged you should claim for it.

    I would also recommend you keep an eye on whichever builders you get as they sometimes treat these types of jobs as "Hospital Jobs". This means they do some work at yours and then someone else offers them a quick job for cash and they go and do that and then come back and do some more on yours etc etc. Make sure they knuckle down and get yours done asap. (This is less likely now as due to the recession there is not much work on for them so they are less likely to be lured away).

    Speak to the loss adjuster and ask him to explain exactly what is happening, what the timeline is and what your covered for and what your not covered for.

    I would recommend you keep a record of any money you receive and what it was for so that you can keep a proper budget and not run over
  • Hi again

    I am not surprised that you don't have any faith in the loss adjuster - I actually intend to follow up our claim with a complaint to CILA (Chartered Institute for Loss Adjusters) as soon as we get some resolution because I'm that upset by the way we've been treated.

    Unfortunately, I've found that the best way forward is to become totally involved. I was told many a time that our case was being looked at and the reality was that he hadn't even assessed it. I made a point of calling at least every other day to ask for an update, or if there was anything I could be doing to help.

    It might be worth suggesting they employ someone like Rainbow International (they dealt with our property) who will be able to come in and get everything sorted from your contents to structure and in my experience, have been really helpful.

    Turning to the cheque - we asked for an interim payment and yep, you guessed it, they didn't even think that we wouldn't be getting mail delivered to the flooded property. In the end, I actually insisted that they make any payments by CHAPS (electronic payment) so it was transferred directly to our account, therefore minimising the delay in receiving any funds - the option is there but they don't seem to remember this when you ask for money!

    Don't be afraid to stand your ground with them, they can come across as "hostile" sometimes and I've been assured that it's merely their nature as they deal with claims that perhaps aren't as honest and straightforward as ours. If you aren't happy with your advisor, ask for their superior to contact you - not a "customer service manager". At the end of the day, your advisor has to answer to someone so if you feel they really aren't doing their job in helping you to get your contents and house replaced / restored within a reasonable time frame, tell them.

    I know it's all easier said than done but we're going through exactly the same scenario at the moment so I can honestly say that I've been there, done that!

    Let us know if there's anything else we can do to help, even if it's just to vent a bit of frustration . . . . I've found just by talking to others on here it helps a little bit.
  • dacouch wrote: »
    I'm not very impressed with your loss adjuster.
    I would recommend you keep a record of any money you receive and what it was for so that you can keep a proper budget and not run over

    Also this is very good advice - I've just started doing this using an excel spreadsheet, noting what payments were recieved and when with a running total costs etc.
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