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an animal is for life
dirtyflannel
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with the credit crunch hitting hard you hear such dreadful stories of unwanted pets being abandoned and abused they are innocent and do not deserve to be treat so abhorrently i strongly urge people to consider extremely carefully before taking on pets they cost a fair amount to feed never mind vet bills if for any reason you do find yourself in a situation where you are really unable to cope please please do not just dump your animal or worse there will always be somewhere it can be taken to be rehomed the pdsa offers vet treatment free of charge
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lots of us on here agree!
However, sadly lots of people are either less bothered or less able to care properly for the pets they have - the number of dogs being dumped locally round here is 3 x what it was 12 months ago.0 -
If there were a two-word couplet I could eradicate with immediate effect then it would be "credit crunch".
This has become a "weasel term" used as a poor excuse by tight fisted people to duck their responsibilities whilst expecting the recipient to implicitly understand that this (whatever it may be) is "not their fault".
We are certainly seeing a larger number of dumped pets and given the numbers of dogs that are having to be euthanased in the local shelter, this is a problem that is not going to go away quickly.
That all said I am still seeing a good number of new registrations of puppies and kittens (a good indicator of economic temperature). This would appear to be counter to all the "bad news". I am not sure where all the money is coming from but am grateful that it is still coming.Garantissez-moi de mes amis, je saurai me defendre de mes ennemis0 -
simontheiceman wrote: »If there were a two-word couplet I could eradicate with immediate effect then it would be "credit crunch".
This has become a "weasel term" used as a poor excuse by tight fisted people to duck their responsibilities whilst expecting the recipient to implicitly understand that this (whatever it may be) is "not their fault".
We are certainly seeing a larger number of dumped pets and given the numbers of dogs that are having to be euthanased in the local shelter, this is a problem that is not going to go away quickly.
That all said I am still seeing a good number of new registrations of puppies and kittens (a good indicator of economic temperature). This would appear to be counter to all the "bad news". I am not sure where all the money is coming from but am grateful that it is still coming.
Great post, thankyou.
but... It seems a shame to me that people are dumping animals, and yet people who want a new pet still choose to buy a pup or kitten rather than rescue one of the unwanted ones which is at risk of being euthanised.0 -
Unfortunately if you have a sick/injured animal it's not as easy as saying that the PDSA will pay for treatment.
My husband was laid off from work just before Christmas and we are still waiting for the outcome of benefit applications. Last week one of our cats was limping badly and obviously needed to see the vet, we contacted the PDSA for help and was told that until we had written proof of benefit nothing could be done and even if we were in receipt of benefit at that very moment it still wasn't straightforward, we would have to fill in an pllication form which would be sent to several local vets to see which one would be prepared to treat our pet! We were told that from requesting an application form it would be approx a month before we would be eligible to receive treatment.
So obviously the thing to do is register as soon as you are in reciept of benefit just in case something happens (and just hope there's no emergency in the meantime) but how many people actually know this?
Luckily a quick word to our usual vet and everything is sorted, cat is now undergoing treatment and we can pay as and when we can afford it. We were lucky that our vet let us do this, I bet not many would.xxx Nikki xxx0 -
Unfortunately if you have a sick/injured animal it's not as easy as saying that the PDSA will pay for treatment.
My husband was laid off from work just before Christmas and we are still waiting for the outcome of benefit applications. Last week one of our cats was limping badly and obviously needed to see the vet, we contacted the PDSA for help and was told that until we had written proof of benefit nothing could be done and even if we were in receipt of benefit at that very moment it still wasn't straightforward, we would have to fill in an pllication form which would be sent to several local vets to see which one would be prepared to treat our pet! We were told that from requesting an application form it would be approx a month before we would be eligible to receive treatment.
So obviously the thing to do is register as soon as you are in reciept of benefit just in case something happens (and just hope there's no emergency in the meantime) but how many people actually know this?
Luckily a quick word to our usual vet and everything is sorted, cat is now undergoing treatment and we can pay as and when we can afford it. We were lucky that our vet let us do this, I bet not many would.
You're right there, i've been with mine over 20yrs & they wouldn't! I've had to change practice also because they won't claim direct off the insurance, which makes having it useless! Shame cause I love the practice. I don't know any that'd let the bill be paid in installments, unless they just don't advertise the fact for obvious reasons idk? Hope your Cat is better soon & well done to your Vet for obviously caring!0 -
foreign_correspondent wrote: »but... It seems a shame to me that people are dumping animals, and yet people who want a new pet still choose to buy a pup or kitten rather than rescue one of the unwanted ones which is at risk of being euthanised.
Mnay thanks for that - It wasnt until I read your post that I could see that utterly remarkable point - why dont they rescue? The list of potential reasons could, of course, be huge, but I am prepared to bet good money that it didn't even cross their mind to consider a rescue pet rather than a new pup or kit.
Another piece of good news is that our local charities are having a great deal of success with finding homes for older cats. I know that this is no consolation for the dogs that dont make it, but it is a good piece of news regardless. I'm afraid I am still smarting from the pre-christmas "clear out" of the unwanted and unloved - far worse this year than I can remember in 14/15 years, hence my bit of "vitriol".Garantissez-moi de mes amis, je saurai me defendre de mes ennemis0 -
simontheiceman wrote: »Mnay thanks for that - It wasnt until I read your post that I could see that utterly remarkable point - why dont they rescue? The list of potential reasons could, of course, be huge, but I am prepared to bet good money that it didn't even cross their mind to consider a rescue pet rather than a new pup or kit.
Another piece of good news is that our local charities are having a great deal of success with finding homes for older cats. I know that this is no consolation for the dogs that dont make it, but it is a good piece of news regardless. I'm afraid I am still smarting from the pre-christmas "clear out" of the unwanted and unloved - far worse this year than I can remember in 14/15 years, hence my bit of "vitriol".
Aww i'm glad to hear that about the Cats, I know when the time comes for me to be after another (Which won't be for many many years as the Podge will live to be 100 at least!) i'll be after a Cat aged maybe 10+. It's so sad how people just dump them, here a Dog was left on NYE tied to the Zoo gates !!!!!!, she must've been terrified with all the fireworks & I bet she'd have smelt the lions etc in the Zoo, how does she know whatever she's the prey of can't get to her! Not to mention the cold etc
People wouldn't just dump their kids (I hope) so why their Pets?! There's always somewhere that can take them. When I bumped into my Dogs previous Owner it took everything not to lecture them etc especially letting her run about unspayed for years on end!0 -
UKTigerlily wrote: »You're right there, i've been with mine over 20yrs & they wouldn't! I've had to change practice also because they won't claim direct off the insurance, which makes having it useless! Shame cause I love the practice. I don't know any that'd let the bill be paid in installments, unless they just don't advertise the fact for obvious reasons idk? Hope your Cat is better soon & well done to your Vet for obviously caring!
Grrr - I hate those vets who wont allow direct claims - I think I might go out of business if I didnt allow them ( a good 30% of my income comes from direct claims ). I dont have £800 (for example) to lay out just like that so I dont expect my clients to have it either. Installments are a bugbear of all practices but I will allow them if I know the client. We are also set up to take direct debits and although this is an expensive process for us (the software and support is far from free), it allows a degree of flexibility. My terms of business state that if there is any issue with payment then this needs to be discussed with a partner in the business. I do prefer it if clients are up-front about potential money issues as this almost certainly means that there is a willingness to address them rather than do a runner.Garantissez-moi de mes amis, je saurai me defendre de mes ennemis0 -
simontheiceman wrote: »Grrr - I hate those vets who wont allow direct claims - I think I might go out of business if I didnt allow them ( a good 30% of my income comes from direct claims ). I dont have £800 (for example) to lay out just like that so I dont expect my clients to have it either. Installments are a bugbear of all practices but I will allow them if I know the client. We are also set up to take direct debits and although this is an expensive process for us (the software and support is far from free), it allows a degree of flexibility. My terms of business state that if there is any issue with payment then this needs to be discussed with a partner in the business. I do prefer it if clients are up-front about potential money issues as this almost certainly means that there is a willingness to address them rather than do a runner.
It's a shame, they know me from when I was maybe 8 & got my first Cat! lol i'm 30 now. Trouble with me is being Bipolar, before diagnosis I got into debt etc & so now couldn't just go get a loan if Podge or Chaya did anything daft. Both are insured for the year up front, I can generally keep about £400ish in savings but if my meds go wrong it can be blown! I used to think why have the insurance if I can't have them claim direct!
The one we transferred too said they can claim direct if in certain circumstances & I explained & they're ok, I can pay a few hundred but not if they broke a leg or got hit by a car. We need more Vets like you! I am PDSA registered (Before I found a practice that'd claim) just in case, but hate to use them & don't see why I should if insured, to me I get stupid amounts on benefits (I complained about that too!) and why should I get free Vet treatment also?!
I'd use them if there was no other choice, without my Cat there'd be no me, I couldn't live alone all my life, but i'd rather have good insurance paid for the year up front & them be able to claim if needed from the insurers! You need to move your practice to my county I think Simon lmaoooo0 -
Forgot to say - we do have insurance and our vet is going to claim direct but is letting us pay our excess as and when!xxx Nikki xxx0
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