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ABBEY SUPER ISA Yes or No

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Does anybody know anything about ABBEY SUPER ISA paying 9.75 for 12 months with an equal amount saved in their Guaranteed Growth Plan tied in for 3.5 or 6 years. It sounds too good to be true but is there a catch. I am looking for a long term investment accsess is not a problem. I would apreceate any views. Cheers

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  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,535 Forumite
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    It sounds too good to be true but is there a catch.

    Why do you think it sounds good? It looks awful to me. The terms of the GEB side of the product are very poor and much better options exist if you are really looking for a GEB as the investment option.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • JayZed
    JayZed Posts: 731 Forumite
    I think you've answered your own question. The ISA itself is great (for a year!) but the catch is that you have to invest an equal amount in Abbey's Guaranteed Growth Plan, which is basically a Guaranteed Equity Bond.

    This is a pretty lousy product. For a start, you can't touch that half of the money for at least 3.5 years. Also, in a GEB you don't receive any dividend income, and in this particular product you only get half of any rise in the FTSE 100. Yes, your capital is secure, but if the FTSE100 rises 10% or less in 3.5 years, you only get a 5% return, which in real terms is a loss. You really need the FTSE to rise by 40% or more over 3.5 years to get a return that will beat the current top cash ISA rates, and even in that case you only make a 20% return in a period when the market's risen 40%, so you would have been much better off investing in a proper FTSE tracker.

    If I were you I wouldn't touch this.
  • Thanks very much a real eye opener. So glad I asked. I must now look elsewere.
  • jamesd
    jamesd Posts: 26,103 Forumite
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    Dramdog, you might look at these funds instead. Note their relative stability (not guaranteed) and high returns compared to what you were looking at. You also get access to your money at any time:

    BlackRock UK Absolute Alpha
    Cru Investment Portfolio

    If you're interested in the possibility of more growth if the stock markets are doing well you might consider these:

    Invesco Perpetual Monthly Income Plus
    Invesco Perpetual Income
    Neptune Global Equity

    There are many other options. Normally you'd do this sort of thing inside a stocks and shares ISA and select a range of funds that invest in different ways or places, as these do. That way some are likely to be doing well even at times when others are doing badly.

    The chart shows how the volatilities differ for the five that I've mentioned.
  • isofa
    isofa Posts: 6,091 Forumite
    No, no, no! Abbey are the worst company to deal with, let alone the terrible GEB option!
  • Milarky
    Milarky Posts: 6,356 Forumite
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    Is the GEB a stocks and shares ISA?

    http://www.abbey.com/csgs/Satellite?c=GSDetalleProducto&cid=1181581352861&idParent=1181581352392&pagename=Abbey%2FGSDetalleProducto%2FGS_DetProducto

    There are two options there, but is this offer tied to the 6 year ISA term (less attractive) due to the fact that it is against ISA regulations to offer a cash ISA product conditional on taking up a 'non' ISA 'savings' or 'investments' product?

    This shows that the 'protections' aren't worth much (again!) because providers have been given plenty of let-outs (presumably to help encourage 'trade'?) - like the way A&L were able to tie their ISA to their current account - and therefore limit its availability to non-banking cusomters - whereas they wouldn't have been allowed to tie it to a savings account (Slippy definition of 'savings'?)

    (..so I think this Abbey offer is a six year tie in only...)
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  • Thanks to All. I have decided to go with the Skipton BS ISA @ 6.5%. And Birmingham Midshires Fixed rate bond @ 7.17% for 1 year. Better deal I think.
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