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Clearing vegetable patch please :)

Hi,
Ive got an 18ft square vegetable patch. Its covered in weeds and blackberry bushes. Im trying to clear it but it seems an impossible task.
I dont really want to use and chemicals because i want my produce to be organic, but i really dont know how im going to clear these weeds!

Maybe a long weekend of weeding is in order :)

Any help would be appreciated.

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  • Lazy_Ike
    Lazy_Ike Posts: 185 Forumite
    Hi,
    I dont really want to use and chemicals because i want my produce to be organic, Maybe a long weekend of weeding is in order :)
    Appreciating you do not want to use chemicals, I would just say that Roundup (glyphosate) works only on the plant, and is actually inactivated by contact with soil. I would hand grub out the blackberry bushes, and spray the weeds with glyphosate, which is effective on both grasses and broadleaf weeds. You need a good wetting, and a minimum of 6 hours contact time prior to any rain for it to be rain-fast. Works best with activily growing weeds not yet mature. Takes time to work, so be patient. Kills the roots, and the aerial parts of the plant follow. Still need to hoe the dead material out and even though there is no residual effect, acknowledging your organic requirements, you might like to dispose of this rather than turning it in. I have checked through the legislated standards for organic farming, and there are no herbicides listed as acceptable. You may be surprised at the lists of chemicals that are acceptable for organic farming for use as pesticides etc.
    Otherwise, as you say, a long weekend of weeding.
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  • chrislee765
    chrislee765 Posts: 380 Forumite
    thanks lazy_Ike ill buy some roundup today. Where can i find the legislation for organic farming.
    Thanks

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  • squeaky
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  • chrislee765
    chrislee765 Posts: 380 Forumite
    Thanks squeaky :)

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  • squeaky
    squeaky Posts: 14,129 Forumite
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    You're welcome :) It looks like rather dry reading.
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  • Loadsabob
    Loadsabob Posts: 662 Forumite
    Personally I wouldn't use ANY chemicals, just down to personal preference. I'm not convinced that anything that kills plants can be remotely good for insects and other positive creatures or organisms living in the soil.

    I would strongly recommend a weekend of blitzing the place. This is what my boyfriend and I did with my three patches over a weekend. We pulled out all the surface weeds we could see first. The he made a seive out of a wooden frame and mesh (you can buy these, too), and we dug a massive hole for the bed, and seived the soil back in (me shovelling, him shaking). The seive removed all weeds, and stones. As a result, two years on, those beds suffer VERY few weeds, and have a good even texture which I add organic matter to when I can.

    It did make us ache that weekend, but the feeling was one of complete satisfaction, and knowing that I wasn't harming anything beneficial in the area. Good luck!
  • nightsong
    nightsong Posts: 523 Forumite
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    Can you still hire rotovators from Hire-It or some other hire shop? This is one way to do it - just get one for half a day and churn up the ground as best you can. It will chop up the weed roots, so you have to be careful to get them out afterwards. They are quite hard work to use but not nearly as bad as digging!
  • chrislee765
    chrislee765 Posts: 380 Forumite
    Loadsabob i think this is what i might do. What sort of size wire mesh did you use?

    A rotovator would be nice but costs money.. I want my vegetable patch to be true MSE style!

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  • squeaky
    squeaky Posts: 14,129 Forumite
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    What I used to do was turn the soil over fairly late in the year. Dig out a spade full and dump it straight back into the whole it came out of upside down so that the greenery is buried and the roots are at the top. Lack of light takes care of the green bits and winter frost does for the roots. No other work needed. In early spring it'll just need a light going over with maybe half a dozen dinky weeds to deal with and your soil has been composted to boot!
    Hi, I'm a Board Guide on the Old Style and the Consumer Rights boards which means I'm a volunteer to help the boards run smoothly and can move and merge posts there. Board guides are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an inappropriate or illegal post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. It is not part of my role to deal with reportable posts. Any views are mine and are not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
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  • chrislee765
    chrislee765 Posts: 380 Forumite
    very clever squeaky... ive never known a frost to be 'helpful' :)

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