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Healthy Eating

Alison_B
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I hope that you wonderful people will be able to give me some inspiration.
I have 2 boys and they are both getting overweight, they are both very unruly and I truly believe that this is down to their diet. Since watching Jamies School Dinners programme have decided to prepare more homemade meals, not only for their health but also for the cost. The evening meal is a problem for my youngest as he won't eat pasta, potatoes or rice, nor will he eat "proper" meat - only the reconstituted rubbish and I am at a loss for lunchtimes when they are at school.
My eldest (13) will try more or less anything but my youngest (10) won't eat anything healthy that I give him. If he had his way he would eat McDonalds and Pizza for every meal.
I have sent them off to school with a wholemeal pitta bread today with cheese and salad in, a drink of pure fruit juice, an apple and (unfortunately) a bag of crisps but the youngest has already said he won't eat it.
Can anybody please help me in ideas for packed lunches that will be healthy for them but that they will also eat. I find that drinks are a problem. They will both drink the pure fruit juice and they like cordials but I am trying to cut down on additives. I have tried giving them water for school but they didn't touch it and I had world war 3 when they came home.
Thanks
Alison
I have 2 boys and they are both getting overweight, they are both very unruly and I truly believe that this is down to their diet. Since watching Jamies School Dinners programme have decided to prepare more homemade meals, not only for their health but also for the cost. The evening meal is a problem for my youngest as he won't eat pasta, potatoes or rice, nor will he eat "proper" meat - only the reconstituted rubbish and I am at a loss for lunchtimes when they are at school.
My eldest (13) will try more or less anything but my youngest (10) won't eat anything healthy that I give him. If he had his way he would eat McDonalds and Pizza for every meal.
I have sent them off to school with a wholemeal pitta bread today with cheese and salad in, a drink of pure fruit juice, an apple and (unfortunately) a bag of crisps but the youngest has already said he won't eat it.
Can anybody please help me in ideas for packed lunches that will be healthy for them but that they will also eat. I find that drinks are a problem. They will both drink the pure fruit juice and they like cordials but I am trying to cut down on additives. I have tried giving them water for school but they didn't touch it and I had world war 3 when they came home.
Thanks
Alison
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Alison, at their ages, you may have problems as they are old enough to exert themselves, but the youngest is perhaps still too young to appreciate why you are trying to change their diets. My eldest is nearly 6 so still at the age where I tell hin what he is having to eat and if he doesn't want it, hard luck. I've recently started boiling my own hams instead of buying pre-sliced ham with all the added stuff and he told me last night he doesn't like it. He only eats ham or jam butties, and I don't make him jam, so guess what he's got today! It has to be said, he eats it and in a couple of days he will be used to it. I don't give mine the option of crisps/choccy biscuits. I don't buy squash for them (hubby like Ribena, but boys don't drink it)
I suppose there are 2 ways of dealing with this and it will depend on how strong you are, & what your boys are like. You could try introducing things gradually and giving them choice OR you could do the short sharp treatment a la 'You Are What You Eat'. Give them what you want to feed them and they either go hungry or they eat it. This will mean you cannot have in your house, things they will pig out on - crisps, squash/fizzy drinks, biscuits, pies etc etc. If they get hungry, offer them fruit. It's hard, but remember they are in fact addicted to junk food. They will have cravings for sugar, salt etc. the companies have deliberately made their food this way.
You could also offer some sort of non-food reward eg points/stars for eating well = treat at end of week (ice skating, cinema etc)
My big thing that I have recommended to lots of people, (who have thanked me when they have seen major improvements) is Hemp Seed Oil tablets. Excellent source of Omega 3, 6 and all those other EFA's needed. They are reasonably cheap, (Holland and Barrett, £3.70 ish for 60 tabs, 1 a day each boy) You will see an improvement in their behaviour after a few weeks (my boy, 2 weeks, friends boy who was worse, 4 weeks) Combine this with reduction in e numbers and you should be laughing. Also try to remember this will be like an uphill battle at the beginning, but as the boys get used to better food, they will eat more of it, their behaviour will improve and it get easier. Good luck.0 -
Try cutting chicken into small pieces then dipping in egg and breadcrumbs before baking it so it looks "artificial".
Make your own sausage by mixing any kind of lean mince with onions and spices then rolling into a sausage shape and baking it.
How about filled pancakes?
Do not make a big thing about healthy food try talking about what footballers or sports people eat and that "certain convenience food" would not be seen in their house."This site is addictive!"
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Maybe introducing things over a couple of weeks along side SOME of their regular junk food, so that they become familiar even if they don't eat it straight away, not making a big thing of them chosing not to eat things but eventually not giving them any alternatives & cutting out all food with mono-soduim glutomate (Sp?) in it (added to all fast food & junk food, makes it addictive so that you want more) would result in a turn around in the space of a few weeks .
I too saw Jamie Oliver last night & was utterly horrifed, seven year olds who had never tasted strawberries & spat them out beacuse they didn't taste like McDonalds strawberry milkshaks!! Packed lunches with 4 choclolate bars but no fruit or dairy? A mother serving food she confessed she would not eat herself & didn't know what it contained? Please tell me this was not typical of our youth but an extreme example???Post Natal Depression is the worst part of giving birth:p
In England we have Mothering Sunday & Father Christmas, Mothers day & Santa Clause are American merchandising tricks:mad: Demonstrate pride in your heirtage by getting it right please people!0 -
Try having a look at the BBC fat nation site, there is a section on packed lunches here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bigchallenge/changinghabits/lunchboxes.shtml
There are a lot of recipies on this bit including a 'takeaway' recipe section:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bigchallenge/changinghabits/
You can still give them pizza if you make it yourself, so you know what is in/ on it there is a recipe in the link above. You could try making them individual bases then a selection of toppings (only healthy ones), you might find they are more encouraged to eat it if they have 'made' it themselves.
There is a thread on here somewhere (can't find it at the min.) by someone trying to reduce costs of feeding a big family with 3 growing lads but it suggests things like getting them to drink water before a meal so that it fills them up (and they are eating less)
It also suggests serving a 2 course meal so you could serve a vegetable based soup as a starter, again it fills them up and it have veg in it. Unfortunatly you'll have to be really strong and say things like, no tea unless you finish your soup. I know it seems harsh but my Mum always told me I couldn't have any pudding until I'd eaten all of my vegetables and it never did me any harm!
Another tip is to reduce the amount of meat in bolognese, chilli, sausage caserole, cottage pie etc. by adding loads of veg and whizzing it up in a blender so they can't see it.
Good Luck.When life hands you a lemon, make sure you ask for tequilla and salt0 -
Lillibet I was horified at the 4 choccie biccies too. I couldn't imagine having more than one choccie biccie with my lunch and would never feed a growing child 4 just for lunch.
I was absolutly horified by last nights tv, anyone notice that everyone had chips for tea and hardly anyone actually had any meat. I never thought I ate healthily, just normal food really, but last night really opened my eyes to what some people do to their children.0 -
Two things. I don't think you can use reasoned debate i.e. explain why it's healthy. They'll just ignore it and give you that "whatever" remark.
I think you can only apply tough love. Keep giving them healthy food. When they get hungry enough, they'll eat it. The problem with packed lunches is that kids swap the stuff they don't want. But chances are, the other kids are eating "rubbish" and will want to keep it to themselves, rather than swapping it for your kids' healthy stuff.
Just stick to it. Once you give in, they know what to do to get you to give in again.Warning ..... I'm a peri-menopausal axe-wielding maniac0 -
Thanks for your replies. I have just been shopping again today and stocked up on healthy foods and things I can make myself. I have bought some bottled sparkling water and some pure fruit juice. I froze the fruit juice and will add a couple of cubes to the water that we can have with our tea tonight. I know that my youngest will moan and I am going to feel terrible if he doesn't eat his tea - I am making spaghetti bolognese and he usually has tinned as he won't eat what I make but I am going to stick to it.
My husband says I will give in as my son will moan and not eat it, then start crying later on saying he is hungry. It really tugs on my heart strings when he does this but I really need to do something now before it is too late.
I liked the idea of making sauces out of vegetables so that they didn't realise that was what it was. Cunning.
The little girl in Jamies programme last night was just like my son (not will all the biscuits though). Showing Jamie what she had and saying her sandwiches were in the rubbish bag.
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I don't have kids (probably a good thing) but I'd suggest you use both a carrot and stick approach.
The 'stick' is basically telling them to like it or lump it. As a child I was forced to eat my dinner whether I liked it or not - my mother basically sat next to me and would not let me leave the table until I had eaten a reasonable amount. Once I spat some food out and was given six of the best for that by my father - I didn't do it again.
The 'carrot' is to make some concessions to your children's picky habits, ie if they eat their first course they can have some sticky junk for pudding, or you can make their food a little bit more like the junk food they seem addicted to - eg serving roast potatoes, using lots of grated cheese, garlic etc As a child I recall eating at friends' houses whose mothers served junk food and I think it was the seasoning I liked as opposed to the plain food served at home.'Never keep up with Joneses. Drag them down to your level. It's cheaper.' Quentin Crisp0 -
Austin_Allegro wrote:As a child I recall eating at friends' houses whose mothers served junk food and I think it was the seasoning I liked as opposed to the plain food served at home.
I would agree with this. I still don't like either chops or boiled potatos beacuse they are just so damned BLAND.
Personally I wouldn't want to turn mealtimes into a battleground, they occour too frequently & are too important as family time to spend them arguing & being frustrated over a serving of peas or whatever. I would advocate serving up what YOU see fit (remember YOU are the PARENT, they are the CHILD & they should not dictate to you) & let them leave what they don't like but don't offer them any extra of anything or any alternatives. If they miss a meal or 2 it really won't hurt them & they'll soon get over it.
Offering or removing the pudding option is a personal thing. Again personally speaking, if it a healthy fruit salad or yoghurt type pudding, for example, I wouldn't say they couldn't have it beacuse they hadn't eaten their veggies, I'd chose get the nutrition into them if they would eat the fruit salad. However, if it was ice cream I'd certainly use the threat (and the action) of no pudding if they didn't at least make an effort to eat their healthy main course. Just a mouthful or 2 is a start and better than nothing after all, & if it's unfamilar they should be praised for trying it.
Are they of suitable ages where they might be encouraged to help prepare food & thus get more interested that way?Post Natal Depression is the worst part of giving birth:p
In England we have Mothering Sunday & Father Christmas, Mothers day & Santa Clause are American merchandising tricks:mad: Demonstrate pride in your heirtage by getting it right please people!0 -
I'm a community health nurse and have loads of mums moaning about their children's eating habits, however when you suggest that they cook the same meal for everyone and not give in to the children they moan that the kids wouldn't eat it and basically they do it for an easy life. As a mum myself my children get healthy home cooked meals and if they won't eat it they don't get anything else. They are not allowed puddings unless they make an effort with their veg. It is easier to do it from an early age but I think its worth starting at any age. Remember whose the boss!!!
My son (6)takes to school sandwiches (wholemeal bread), cherry toms, grapes , yoghurt and orange juice for his lunch and a banana for break. He does moan that other children have crisps for break but. the school have got a healthy eating policy for breaktime so I'm sticking to my guns on this one.
I was also horrified when watching Jamie Oliver but also not very surprised. We live in an overprocessed nation and I think everyone needs to get back to cooking from scratch. Thats why I love this forum so much!!0
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