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MarkyMarkD wrote: »There is no justification for not sending the funds on the day the account is closed. So, barring it getting lost in the post, it should arrive with the other bank within 3 working days and be cleared within another 3 working days ... so let's say 7 working days in all is more than enough.
If your account was closed on 17/02/10 then it should be in the other account earning interest by 26/02/10. Which is just Friday. So you are getting a bit het up to be complaining it's not there yet, I guess.
Also, if the receiving bank is busy, they may easily bank the cheque straight away and deal with the processing later (but backdate it). That's fine unless you wanted to withdraw the money - which you wouldn't normally with an ISA transfer. So, once again, it's best to wait a little while and see what date they credit the funds from.
For exactly the reasons as noted above, they may be deluged and hence have some processing delay, but it doesn't necessarily mean that delay will cost you anything.
The transfer eventually took 5 weeks, although interest will be paid from 18 February by the receiving back (A&L). The transferring Bank (Nat West) did send the cheque on 17 February, but the paperwork was returned by A&L, as it did not contain the required Tax Year information. This was re-sent by Nat West on 3 March and the funds finally appeared in my wife's A&L account on 6 March.
Although A&L were in possession of the cheque from 18 February, they were telling my wife right up until the money appeared in her account over 2 weeks later that the cheque must have got lost and she should ask Nat West to issue a replacment!
Nat West took 2 weeks to action the transfer request in the first place and then sent incorrect paperwork.
It doesn't give one a lot of faith in the banks in question. The Ombudsman has written to both institutions. Nat West have responded and apologised, but so far nothing has been heard from A&L.
How typical is my wife's experience, I wonder?0 -
Reactivation would be necessary if you wanted to subscribe to the Santander ISA but the HMRC guidance does not mention it in relation to transfers, from a quick scan.
Seeing as the tax year is ending in a few weeks, and that I haven't subscribed to my current ("deactivated") ISA since 2008, would I be able to sign up for a new ISA such as the Santander 3.5% one, and actually withdraw the money from the old one to transfer into the new one?
Would I have to reactivate the deactivated ISA to withdraw the money, and would I therefore be able to open a new ISA in the same tax year as reactivating (but not subscribing to) one?
I am aware that withdrawing money means that I'll lose the benefits of it being tax-free, but as the new tax year would be starting fairly soon after I did this, I wouldn't lose out, surely?
EDIT: Especially after reading some people's horror stories about the transfer system, if I could avoid it completely and end up with a better account, it'd be a win-win situation for me.0 -
Seeing as the tax year is ending in a few weeks, and that I haven't subscribed to my current ("deactivated") ISA since 2008, would I be able to sign up for a new ISA such as the Santander 3.5% one, and actually withdraw the money from the old one to transfer into the new one?Would I have to reactivate the deactivated ISA to withdraw the money
Don't know as far as Santander's administrative processes are concerned...and would I therefore be able to open a new ISA in the same tax year as reactivating (but not subscribing to) one?0 -
This tax year, I've transferred numerous ISAs (on woeful interest rates) into the NatWest e-ISA without any problems or delays ... until I tried to transfer in an old Abbey ISA. I submitted the application to NatWest at the end of December 2009 and the funds didn't finally transfer until last week -10 weeks in all!
It makes me so mad!!! Abbey said that they had never received the application the first time and then it took a week for the 'cheque' to arrive (who uses cheques? not even the banks!). As a result, that last transfer will only benefit from a month's decent interest rate.
Why is it that we can send men to the moon but can't have a short, sharp ISA process that uses 21st technology?I wanna be Mortgage Free by February 20130 -
prudence41 wrote: »Why is it that we can send men to the moon but can't have a short, sharp ISA process that uses 21st technology?
Your experience is par for the course with Abbey, from my own experience. A couple of years ago, they 'lost' a transfer application which I had handed in to a branch in October, finally contacting me to say that their ISA centre in Glasgow had 'found' it in December - my ISA funds had long been transferred elsewhere by that time.0 -
I also TF an ISA from Abbey to the Natwest e-ISA (not so recently, but back at the end of November), and much as I hate to admit it, it was faster than I expected: it was in the a/c about 2 weeks after handing in the transfer form at Natwest.
We were in the process of closing all our Abbey savings accounts at the time, and had real problems with a couple of them, one in particular which took nearly 2 months and a lot of hassle, but their reputation preceded them and it was no real surprise. So I had no high hopes of my ISA either and was fully expecting it to take an age... but it was the exception, taking only about half the time allowed in the guidance. Just seems to be pot luck.
Some do use electronic transfers for ISA funds, incidentally: Halifax is one, but not sure who else (evidently not Santander!).~cottager0 -
prudence41 wrote: »This tax year, I've transferred numerous ISAs (on woeful interest rates) into the NatWest e-ISA without any problems or delays ... until I tried to transfer in an old Abbey ISA. I submitted the application to NatWest at the end of December 2009 and the funds didn't finally transfer until last week -10 weeks in all!
It makes me so mad!!! Abbey said that they had never received the application the first time and then it took a week for the 'cheque' to arrive (who uses cheques? not even the banks!). As a result, that last transfer will only benefit from a month's decent interest rate.
Why is it that we can send men to the moon but can't have a short, sharp ISA process that uses 21st technology?
You could (should) have contacted Abbey two weeks down the line to confirm they'd had the transfer request - which they hadn't - and then got NatWest to resubmit it. Simple.
And all the banks use cheques to transfer ISAs. There is no automated process which will do it - and also transfer the necessary ISA history which needs to accompany the money. A piece of paper with a cheque attached is honestly the safest way to ensure both things get their together and remain linked to each other. There is a pilot scheme between a (very few) banks to do the transfer of information and money electronically, but it is only a very few banks and only (obviously) if the transfer is between them, which most transfers will not be.0 -
prudence41 wrote: »Why is it that we can send men to the moon but can't have a short, sharp ISA process that uses 21st technology?Eco Miser
Saving money for well over half a century0 -
Hi there, I've got two questions.
I have an existing Cash ISA, that I'm looking to transfer (I suppose to the First Direct one), but the new ISA says that you need to pay in at least £1 to start it. Am I right in thinking that I can't open this until the new tax year, as I'm not allowed to pay in £1, as I've already paid in to my existing Cash ISA this year. I wasn't sure about this last year, and so I waited until the new tax year before I started a new one.
Secondly, I was with Abbey (now Santander) the previous tax year, and am currently with Natwest. If I transfer back to Santander am I treated as a new customer, and therefore able to get their new rate? Or am I still an old customer, therefore no nice new rates for me? Or maybe I need to actively cancel my old Abbey account first (not sure if it will automatically have already been cancelled seeing as I had transferred all the money from it last April)?
Thanks for any help/answers!0 -
and with regards to First Direct, it looks like I need to open up a normal bank account with them. It also says this:
'Is there a charge to bank with first direct?
Banking with first direct usually costs £10 a month, but it's free when you pay in at least £1,500 to your 1st Account each month, or maintain an average monthly 1st Account balance of £1,500, or hold a selected first direct additional product.'
So I would need to change my normal (non-ISA) bank account over to First Direct so that I don't get charged the £10 monthly fee, or would the FD ISA account likely be one of their 'selected' additional products, to that I'm not charged anything extra?0
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