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IB transfer to ESA
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any idea which area's have the fun of being trialled?[greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
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The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
and we should be deeply worried about that[/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)0 -
DWP will no doubt issue a statement on the location of any IB>ESA pilot area/s nearer the time.0
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Can I ask when the switch over for those in their 50's will start?
Thank you.0 -
donnac2558 wrote: »Can I ask when the switch over for those in their 50's will start?
Thank you.
Interesting question, hope you get an answer to your query
I didnt realise different age groups would be transferred at different times0 -
In general, you will be begin the conversion process on the scheduled review date for your personal capability assessment. This means that most claimants will already know the date on which they should be converted to ESA. However the new regulations give the DWP the right to call anyone for transfer at any time, so there will be no legal grounds for challenging a decision to convert you earlier. The DWP state that some adjustments to conversion dates may need to be made in order to ensure a steady supply of claimants for conversion.
The guidance gives no indication of when claimants who do not have a review date, for example because they are exempt from the personal capability assessment and have not heard from the DWP in years, will be converted.
The DWP do say, though, that their intention is to migrate incapacity benefit and income support claimants first and severe disablement allowance (SDA) customers only once these have been completed.
Claimants who receive national insurance credits only will not even begin to be migrated until after March 2014.
Claimants who reach pensionable age before the end of March 2014 will not be migrated to ESA, they will stay on their current benefits. The DWP say this is to avoid people having to make two changes of benefit in a short period of time.
In total, around 1.5 million claimants will go through the migration process, excluding credits only claimants, amounting to 10,000 cases a week for three years.
The intention is that when the entire process of conversion is completed, there will be no claimants left on incapacity related benefits other than ESA, with the exception of SDA claimants who are over pensionable age.Child of a Fighting Race.0 -
nogginthenog wrote: »In general, you will be begin the conversion process on the scheduled review date for your personal capability assessment. This means that most claimants will already know the date on which they should be converted to ESA. However the new regulations give the DWP the right to call anyone for transfer at any time, so there will be no legal grounds for challenging a decision to convert you earlier. The DWP state that some adjustments to conversion dates may need to be made in order to ensure a steady supply of claimants for conversion.
The guidance gives no indication of when claimants who do not have a review date, for example because they are exempt from the personal capability assessment and have not heard from the DWP in years, will be converted.
The DWP do say, though, that their intention is to migrate incapacity benefit and income support claimants first and severe disablement allowance (SDA) customers only once these have been completed.
Claimants who receive national insurance credits only will not even begin to be migrated until after March 2014.
Claimants who reach pensionable age before the end of March 2014 will not be migrated to ESA, they will stay on their current benefits. The DWP say this is to avoid people having to make two changes of benefit in a short period of time.
In total, around 1.5 million claimants will go through the migration process, excluding credits only claimants, amounting to 10,000 cases a week for three years.
The intention is that when the entire process of conversion is completed, there will be no claimants left on incapacity related benefits other than ESA, with the exception of SDA claimants who are over pensionable age.
thank you , for a very informative post
very much appreciated :beer:0 -
nogginthenog wrote: »In general, you will be begin the conversion process on the scheduled review date for your personal capability assessment. This means that most claimants will already know the date on which they should be converted to ESA. However the new regulations give the DWP the right to call anyone for transfer at any time, so there will be no legal grounds for challenging a decision to convert you earlier. The DWP state that some adjustments to conversion dates may need to be made in order to ensure a steady supply of claimants for conversion.
The guidance gives no indication of when claimants who do not have a review date, for example because they are exempt from the personal capability assessment and have not heard from the DWP in years, will be converted.
The DWP do say, though, that their intention is to migrate incapacity benefit and income support claimants first and severe disablement allowance (SDA) customers only once these have been completed.
Claimants who receive national insurance credits only will not even begin to be migrated until after March 2014.
Claimants who reach pensionable age before the end of March 2014 will not be migrated to ESA, they will stay on their current benefits. The DWP say this is to avoid people having to make two changes of benefit in a short period of time.
In total, around 1.5 million claimants will go through the migration process, excluding credits only claimants, amounting to 10,000 cases a week for three years.
The intention is that when the entire process of conversion is completed, there will be no claimants left on incapacity related benefits other than ESA, with the exception of SDA claimants who are over pensionable age.
That will be right, attack the people who have worked and paid there dues before the people who havnt.
SDA was a joke, you were put on it because you couldnt claim IB or IS and it had nothing to do with severe disability apart from attaching a disabled label to people who arnt disabled.0 -
Oh right. It was just the OP said under 25s would be moving from Oct 2010. So I thought they are moving them first so are they doing the rest in groups by age?
When filling in forms the centre who does it for me have said I get a higher rate or something as I was working when I first took ill. Sorry cannot remember the exact term the guy used but it was something like Oh you where working. So would that be the national insurance credits you mention?
Sorry for being a numpty.0 -
donnac2558 wrote: »Oh right. It was just the OP said under 25s would be moving from Oct 2010. So I thought they are moving them first so are they doing the rest in groups by age?
When filling in forms the centre who does it for me have said I get a higher rate or something as I was working when I first took ill. Sorry cannot remember the exact term the guy used but it was something like Oh you where working. So would that be the national insurance credits you mention?
Sorry for being a numpty.
Pre 1995 the extra is a pension paid depending on age when you took ill and your NI contributions, after 1995 its an age addition and the maximum now is @£105 pw but its being reduced year on year until it gone, its illegal because we should have transitional protection.0
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