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Advice on absentee landlord

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  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    edited 6 February 2010 at 7:26PM
    Actually, I knew full well that I was making it up but WHEN I RULE THE WORLD things are going to be very, very different indeed.

    The next general election is going to be exciting then, Bitter & Twisted v. Weezl74 (see link, post 450 on). :beer:
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2098353
    Declutterbug-in-progress.⭐️⭐️⭐️ ⭐️⭐️
  • treblekicker i assume you're not going through an agent as you haven't mentioned going through them to contact your landlord

    is your rent more than £100 a week? if it is you may be in a sticky spot- although i don't know what would happen?

    from http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/CNR/nr_landlords.htm :

    The Non resident Landlords Scheme is a scheme for taxing the UK rental income of Non resident landlords.
    The scheme requires UK letting agents to deduct Basic Rate tax from any rent they collect for Non resident landlords. If Non resident landlords don't have UK letting agents acting for them, and the rent is more than £100 a week, their tenants must deduct the tax. When working out the amount to tax the letting agent/tenant can take off deductible expenses .
    Letting agents and/or tenants don't have to deduct tax if HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) tells them not to HMRC will tell an agent/tenant not to deduct tax if Non resident landlords have successfully applied for approval to receive rents with no tax deducted. But even though the rent may be paid with no tax deducted, it remains liable to UK tax. So Non resident landlords must include it in any tax return HMRC sends them.

    i may have understood this incorrectly?
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    treblekicker i assume you're not going through an agent as you haven't mentioned going through them to contact your landlord

    is your rent more than £100 a week? if it is you may be in a sticky spot- although i don't know what would happen?

    from http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/CNR/nr_landlords.htm :

    .......

    i may have understood this incorrectly?

    You're absolutley right Lizzie. However it's a bit late for the tenant (OP) to start doing anything now except keep quiet!!
  • In terms then of not paying the rent, how would should we handle it? What I mean by that is should we first send an email saying why we are doing this and give a final chance or just send an email when we stop paying?

    With regards to references, as she is refusing to give a reference now, what's the best thing to say to new prospective landlords when doing a reference check?

    In my opinion your landlady is so stupid and reckless she is not deserving of any consideration whatsoever so I probably wouldn't even bother telling her that you intend to not pay the last month's rent but unfortunately I think you might have to. This saga might go on and you may need all the written correspondence as a paper-trail at some point in the future. Like when the bint tries to hold onto the balance of your deposit.

    Get writing by Recorded Delivery to the Letting Agents as advised, keeping your own copy for future reference.

    As for new, prospective landlords I would just be absolutely candid. You're dealing with a foolish, amateur landlady here who hasn't got a clue but I have a vague feeling that their ignorance might be coming back to bite her on her bum at some point. Like the Small Claims court quite soon.
  • G_M
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    In terms then of not paying the rent, how would should we handle it? What I mean by that is should we first send an email saying why we are doing this and give a final chance or just send an email when we stop paying?
    Stop paying now. You have no UK address for her, you do not need to pay till she gives you one.
    But as Firefox says, put it in writing. It's clearly ludicrous to write to your own address, so
    1) recorded delivery to the agents (even though they are not managing) and
    2) by email.

    Tell her what you are doing and briefly list
    1) lack of address
    2) lack of gas safety cert
    3) lack of protected deposit

    Don't mention the tax.
  • yes sorry G_M's got a very good point lol, i was thinking you could report her since she seems to not want to follow any rules

    however my mind glossed over the part where you'd have to back pay the missing tax

    so ignore me :)
  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    As for new, prospective landlords I would just be absolutely candid. You're dealing with a foolish, amateur landlady here who hasn't got a clue but I have a vague feeling that their ignorance might be coming back to bite her on her bum at some point. Like the Small Claims court quite soon.

    Agreed: the landlord cannot give the OP a reference anyway, how on earth is the new landlord going to contact them? Via the tenants address or the phone number that is never answered?? :p Any landlord worth his salt would think it was a scam reference given that scenario.
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  • The recorded delivery idea is very clever - will definitely be doing this. TBH we've no idea where she lives - she's told us she's abroad but we have no proof. The phone even goes straight to voicemail so we can't tell from the ringtone on the line.
  • Fire_Fox wrote: »
    The next general election is going to be exciting then, Bitter & Twisted v. Weezl74 (see link, post 450 on). :beer:
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2098353

    Good Lord! Weezl74 for PM? I'd vote for that. What a clever and amusing genius. I need to investigate more of this forum, I see
  • Hi,

    Thanks again for all of the advice (and interesting links to other threads here). Just to clear up one point, we don't have a letting agent. She used one to market the property but that's the limit of the involvement.

    In fact she was using one briefly to find replacement tenants for us but fired them for no obvious reason after one viewing (!).
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