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Identity Theft - (Nearly) Tax Credit Fraud

Hi all,

First post and let me apologise for asking a question before contributing more widely; where I lack in the deeper financial knowledge some of you have I hope I can one day be of assistance to you in other ways. Apologies aside...

As per the thread title, I wanting some advice on identity theft and tax credits. Let me start by saying I do not claim for any form of tax credits nor do I want to start claiming; I am merely wanting some advice regarding a specific incident.

Yesterday I received a letter from HMRC informing me that they "have indentified and stopped an attempt to claim tax credits using some of [my] personal details" - needless to say I am quite disturbed and distressed to hear of this, particularly because I am very private about my personal information. The letter goes on to say that they have taken steps to ensure information held about me is correct and have put in place additional measures to prevent this happening further. The close the letter by pointing me towards CIFAS and the Home Office ID Theft website - both provided links and phone numbers check out.

I immediately phoned HMRC and they confirmed that something had happened - although they would provide me with no information on the nature of the fraud attempt or how it was thwarted - and, although I never told them my bank account details, that the bank account they had on record was NOT mine (not surprising, it was obviously the fraudsters account).

So I spent most of last night trying to educate myself on how tax credits and tax credit fraud works. I also attempted to obtain my credit report (after reading one of the articles on this site) using Experian - they require further proof of identity (statements from the last 3 months and photocopy of passport/driving license) probably because I have only lived at my current address for a couple of years and am very cagy about giving my details or signing up for anything.

The only way I can think that someone has my personal information is from a laptop theft about 2 years ago which was reported to the police but nothing ever came of it (i.e. the laptop and documents were never recovered). I am not that is definately where the information came from, like all identity theft cases, I just don't know which is probably the worst part of all this.

This leads me to my questions:
  • Can anyone shed any light on tax credit fraud and what information the fraudsters may have on me? Given I have never applied for any kind of state benefit I have no idea how easy/difficult it is to obtain them, nor do I know what information you must provide.
  • Can anyone offer any advice of where I should go from here? There is so much information out there that I am feeling a little overwhelmed at the minute and I am not entirely sure of what is the best course of action.
  • Should I send off the information to Experian or perhaps try another credit agency?
  • I have, in my view, a good credit profile, no debts ever (excepting mortgage) I have always earnt my money before I spend it, so what can I do to ensure that whatever information has been stolen from me that from a financial and personal perspective any impact from this can be mitigated?
  • Any general comments on identity theft and how to deal with it.
I do apologise if this is in the wrong forum or indeed this is posted at the wrong site. Point me elsewhere if necessary. Any information, help, or experiences are much appreciated. Many thanks for reading.
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  • System
    System Posts: 178,448 Community Admin
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    Your National Insurance number is the main thing any fraudster would need to claim tax credits and knowledge of your employment, any children etc.
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  • Thanks for the prompt reply.
    Pam17 wrote: »
    Your National Insurance number is the main thing any fraudster would need to claim tax credits

    Yes, I did see that on the HMRC website. The whole crux of me trying to find out how they got my details has centred on my NI number.
    Pam17 wrote: »
    and knowledge of your employment, any children etc.

    That bit I didn't know. So they must have knowledge of my employment history and family to be able to make the application? How much employment history (in years) if I may ask?

    Given I have no idea how they thwarted the attempt hence I don't know where the error in the fraudsters application resides, all I know is that the application was made, has made it onto the system (because the recorded bank details are not mine), and has subsequently been declined.
  • dtc04
    dtc04 Posts: 109 Forumite
    just last years wage and this years I think, its been a few years since I first applied but Im sure when I did they asked how much I was expecting to earn that year and how much I earned the year before as well as childcare costs.

    Ive never heard of anything like this before, its scary isn't it? I would definitely get a copy of your credit report because if you haven't applied for credit you might not realise there was any defaults in you name.

    Are you entitled to tax credits and just not wanting them or have they completely made up you wage details?
  • dtc04 wrote: »
    just last years wage and this years I think, its been a few years since I first applied but Im sure when I did they asked how much I was expecting to earn that year and how much I earned the year before as well as childcare costs.

    Thanks for the info. Is this information provided in a "self-cert" capacity or are you expected to provide evidence (wage-slips, childcare invoices, etc)?
    dtc04 wrote: »
    Ive never heard of anything like this before, its scary isn't it? I would definitely get a copy of your credit report because if you haven't applied for credit you might not realise there was any defaults in you name.

    Yes, very.

    I have tried to apply for the Experian Credit Report and they require further information to confirm my identity. I am tempted to obtain another from Equifax, but not sure if it is a good idea to obtain more than one credit report at any one time.
    dtc04 wrote: »
    Are you entitled to tax credits and just not wanting them or have they completely made up you wage details?

    As far as I am aware, I have no entitlement to tax credits. Any wage details are likely to be made up.
  • dtc04
    dtc04 Posts: 109 Forumite
    Ive never had to provide any proof, I have just given them the figures. So for example when my childcare costs have changed I just rang them and gave them the new cost and my tax credits have been adjusted, they dont contact my childminder or anything like that.
  • Just a thought, but when I applied for my credit report, they didn't ask for further details and I have lived here less than 3 years.

    The fact that they are asking for statements etc. makes me think the identity fraud might run deeper than just tax credit. If I were you, I would send them the info just so you can get all the facts.

    I hope you get to the bottom of this and soon. Let us know how you get on.

    Wendy
  • RollerMan_3
    RollerMan_3 Posts: 8 Forumite
    edited 21 November 2009 at 11:09AM
    dtc04 wrote: »
    Ive never had to provide any proof, I have just given them the figures. So for example when my childcare costs have changed I just rang them and gave them the new cost and my tax credits have been adjusted, they dont contact my childminder or anything like that.

    Wow, that is concerning.
    Mollycat13 wrote: »
    Just a thought, but when I applied for my credit report, they didn't ask for further details and I have lived here less than 3 years.

    The fact that they are asking for statements etc. makes me think the identity fraud might run deeper than just tax credit. If I were you, I would send them the info just so you can get all the facts.

    Certainly not what I wanted to hear but I appreciate your honesty and believe you are possibly right. I would just like access now to put my mind at rest. Given how shaken I am by this, I am very wary of passing the personal information they request. Sense says I should. I would phone the Customer Services number they provided but am conscious that that wouldn't achieve anything.
    Mollycat13 wrote: »
    I hope you get to the bottom of this and soon. Let us know how you get on.

    Wendy

    I will do, thanks for your help.
  • Mollycat13 wrote: »
    Just a thought, but when I applied for my credit report, they didn't ask for further details and I have lived here less than 3 years.

    The fact that they are asking for statements etc. makes me think the identity fraud might run deeper than just tax credit. If I were you, I would send them the info just so you can get all the facts.

    Well I have just signed up for the Equifax credit report and there is, to my eye, nothing untoward on there. It seems surprisingly sparse, which I hope is a reflection of my rather reserved credit history. I do have other financials paid for through a joint account, but they are not listed, presumably because they are joint with my partner.

    Forgive my ignorance, but would I be correct in saying that less information is required to obtain tax credits than, say, take out a commercial loan/contract? I am trying to guess reasons as to why they went for tax credits rather than other financial options.
  • Kimitatsu
    Kimitatsu Posts: 3,883 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    To apply for tax credits all they really need is your national insurance number and date of birth. To get a commercial loan they need your employers name and address, how much you earn, your addresses for the last 3 years minimum.

    Personally I would apply for credit reports from all 3 gencies, Equifax, Experian and CallCredit just to be on the safe side or there are services you can sign up to which monitor all three for you for a monthly fee. Each lender requests and reports information to the differing agencies (if you look on the sub prime credit thread you will find who reports and requests what from whom) and so whilst one is sparse there may be an indicator on another one.

    Often fraudsters go for tax credits because once they are set up there are very few checks and so there are few inidcators that fraud has been comitted until much later down the line.
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  • Paparika
    Paparika Posts: 2,481 Forumite
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    Do what's been advised

    Tax Credits gave my information to another claimant, in return i was given information about the claimants children, they were about to pay me for 3 additional children.
    They were given my bank details :mad:

    I had to pay to go on to CIFAS to protect myself,
    Life is about give and take, if you can't give why should you take?
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