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A question for the regulars planning to buy houses

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  • For me it was always about being able to afford a house I wanted to live in somewhere I wanted to live. Once I knew I could get that I was happy. Sure it might not be the optimal situation, but predicting the absolute bottom (buy low) and absolute top (sell high) is impossible - and if you can do it then well done, you're probably a gazillionaire!

    Chasing that optimal deal must get you down over time, always waiting, always wondering, is now right, or should I wait, what if you wait and get it wrong? There must be some people who held off buying in 2004 thinking prices were about to drop - half a decade later...

    At the end of the day, I know my debt will be paid off in 25 years and I am living the lifestyle that I want. Perhaps I didn't buy at the "best" time but being mortgage free in my 50s, enjoying life now... I mean really, what more do I need? I get a bit fed up with the "you're stupid for buying" attitude. Well maybe I'm just not greedy. Imagine being happy with what you already have... now you get to get on with life. Love it :D!

    S.
    xxx
  • Pobby
    Pobby Posts: 5,438 Forumite
    We looked at having a house built in semi rural Wales a few years back. Rough estimate was £80,000 building cost plus land. Quote from my bro-in-law so I would guess not top dollar. He then suggested that for not a lot more we have 2 semis built, sell off one and get a very cheap house ourselves.

    Had spys looking for me but couldn`t find a plot near to where we wanted to be.
  • lemonjelly wrote: »
    Unfortunately, for years I have watch escalating prices, & been repeatedly thinking that properties which are selling simply aren't worth it.

    Because it will be a HOME, I'm not prepared to accept some of these pokey new build tiny places which I've been seeing.

    I'll shut up & say (again) when I see something that is worth it.

    The problem for you has been that many others have thought it was worth it and was prepared to compromise and accept "rabbit hutch new-builds"

    I'm in agreement with you, new builds are in my opinion too pokey, ubfortunately, unless you can afford an older more spacious property with the garage and garden, many do compromise and buy the new-builds.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • Don't really understand the use of substandard new-builds as rungs on a ladder tbh. Regardless of state of rest of housing market at any given time these are likely to fall behind rest of market disproportionately over time as their problem reveal themselves further over time
    Prefer girls to money
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Mewbie, no offence meant, however it's getting to the point where I'm finding it not worth reading your posts.

    You seem far more interested in trying to make funny comments than seriously contributing to the discussion / debate.

    I can't tell if it's worth responding to or let you have your relief by babbling on.

    It would be nice to discuss properly instead of having the comic butting in all the time from the back of the class ;)

    he seems unable to do this as he only does this to the more 'positve' posters and even on the "positive news" threads.

    once more economic positive news has started to appear he's becoming much more nasty and troublesome on this forum.
  • MrDT
    MrDT Posts: 951 Forumite
    edited 15 September 2009 at 12:19PM
    I don't think we really have a specific trigger point with regards prices tbh. In the area we are interested in a nice 3 bed semi has just come onto the market at 90k, we have enough saved to put down a pretty substantial deposit and if we wanted to we could pay the asking price and only need a 1.3x joint earnings mortgage. Affordability isn't really a big issue (for us, though I accept that it certainly is for many in this low wage high unemployment area). I do expect prices to drop further here for the next couple of years, but if they don't it's not going to put much of a dampner on things for us.

    We're happily renting at the moment, prices are dropping (here at least, maybe not in Aberdeen ;)), and we can save a good amount each month. We're not feeling pressured in the least. Maybe if prices were rising year on year at 5%+ we'd feel differently, but I can't see that happening for a good few years.

    I expect we'll probably buy somewhere in the next couple of years, all being well, but when we choose to do so will be more about finding the right place at the right time than it will timing the market. If that means buying before or after the bottom is reached, who cares. You can never time things to perfection anyway, bottom of the market - higher mortgage rates, apres-bottom - cheaper rates etc. Swings and roundabouts, rough and the smooth... We'll just go for it when it feels right for us.

    I guess this is why I don't really bother with this forum much anymore. Stagnating prices, no urgency to buy, not priced out, don't 'own' a house in negative equity, not a btl landlord... I clearly have some FTB VI bias, and am a genuine bear in that I expect there to be further price drops (as opposed to blindly hope against hope), but I have no reason to froth at the mouth and as a result I don't really feel like I fit in!
  • Don't really understand the use of substandard new-builds as rungs on a ladder tbh. Regardless of state of rest of housing market at any given time these are likely to fall behind rest of market disproportionately over time as their problem reveal themselves further over time

    I personally agree, the problem is that there are a lot of people out there who have bought the city centre new builds, thinking it is great they are getting a brand new home.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • MrDT wrote: »
    In the area we are interested in a nice 3 bed semi has just come onto the market at 90k,

    I expect we'll probably buy somewhere in the next couple of years, all being well, but when we choose to do so will be more about finding the right place at the right time than it will timing the market.

    I guess the problem you may face is that as prices in your area continue to drop, there will be a time when that nice place you know becomes affordable to more people and you find that the property has gone to another.

    Fine if you are flexible about the property and my opinion has always been if I miss out then a better property will become available.
    Problem is with that theory is there's less options now than before
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • I personally agree, the problem is that there are a lot of people out there who have bought the city centre new builds, thinking it is great they are getting a brand new home.

    the problem here is the knock on effect when these people attempt to sell these in order to move up the ladder imo
    Prefer girls to money
  • the problem here is the knock on effect when these people attempt to sell these in order to move up the ladder imo

    It's could be a never ending circle unless peoples attitudes change

    I said
    Originally Posted by IveSeenTheLight viewpost.gif
    I personally agree, the problem is that there are a lot of people out there who have bought the city centre new builds, thinking it is great they are getting a brand new home.

    These will be replaced by the next circulation of lots of people out there who have bought the city centre new builds, thinking it is great they are getting a brand new home.

    And on

    And on


    Expanded in red ;)
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
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