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The Job Centre aka The Joke Shop.....

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  • tgon
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    wxmlad wrote: »
    i think some people need to look for jobs themselves too
    Totally agree with you - I think all able people are socially bound to do so. This period of unemployment is the worst time of my life. And I'm sure experienced Job Centre staff know who's taking the p1ss and who's trying their utmost. I've no issue with the Job Centre and my hand doesn't shake when I sign on either. The sooner I don't need to the sooner I can have an income and a life to enjoy again.

    Open question and without prejudice - does the Job Centre and its rules of engaging the unemployed have scope for considering a claimants career or is the goal to simply get people back to any form of work and off the JSA?
  • mizzbiz
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    dmg24 wrote: »
    I see no reason why you should need a car. You choose to keep pets and livestock, nobody forces you to. As for a ninety minute journey to work? Yes, many people do that (and a great deal more).

    If you are in debt, a car is a luxury, not an essential.

    Public transport costs an aboslute fortune. £4.50 here to go 6 miles into the city centre. And then, you have to walk for 20 minutes to get to the stop. It's cheaper, in time and money, to have a car. Don't see how it's a luxury. I hate public transport, dirty, expensive, slow, never on time and many bus drivers are Tw@ts.
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  • Thanatos
    Thanatos Posts: 882 Forumite
    What a sad thread this is turning into - it seems everyone is very quick to pass judgement on others with very little information about their lives other than a short post.

    Calling people workshy and lazy? Telling people they have to sell their car with no real knowledge of their lifestyle? Generaising that british people believe some work is beneath them? Forigners get all the jobs? Dictating how long people should be expected to communte to work?

    This is supposed to be a forum about helping each other. It is most certainly not supposed to be a forum about passing judgement on others and name calling.
  • mizzbiz
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    Thanatos wrote: »
    What a sad thread this is turning into - it seems everyone is very quick to pass judgement on others with very little information about their lives other than a short post.

    Calling people workshy and lazy? Telling people they have to sell their car with no real knowledge of their lifestyle? Generaising that british people believe some work is beneath them? Forigners get all the jobs? Dictating how long people should be expected to communte to work?

    This is supposed to be a forum about helping each other. It is most certainly not supposed to be a forum about passing judgement on others and name calling.

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  • cyclonebri1
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    wxmlad wrote: »

    I work for jobcentre plus, and 6 years ago when i lost my job the last thing I wanted to do was work in a place where everyday is filled with abuse and threats from customers for £14-16k a year, I travel 50 miles a day to work there - yes in traffic it takes me an hour! some people think they can reject any job because they have a god given right to benefit for as long as they want.


    I would have thought if you get reported for the things you are saying on here, you could find the 50miles a day less of a problem.

    You'll be sat on the other side of the counter:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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  • SomeBozo
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    Thanatos wrote: »
    This is supposed to be a forum about helping each other. It is most certainly not supposed to be a forum about passing judgement on others and name calling.

    The OP set the tone of the thread with :
    the joke centre
    How stupid can some people be? I have never known anything so stupid

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  • I would have thought if you get reported for the things you are saying on here, you could find the 50miles a day less of a problem.

    You'll be sat on the other side of the counter:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


    reported for what exactly? defending my colleagues? stating facts? explaining that you cant choose not to get a job because you dont feel like it? I'll think you'll find that the government are planning on stopping benefits after a certain period if people are NOT willing to take jobs. Slagging off JC staff because your unemployed or not willing to work certain times is not the answer to gaining employment. Things I have said are what you will be told at the job centre. I think you've had issues at the jobcentre in the past.?


    noone has any right to come in a give me abuse and spit in my face just because they cant have money or aren't happy about taking a job, a customer at our office has just got 6 months in prison for assaulting a member of staff, so i cant imagine if you report me the manager will say 'yes by all means feel free to assault and abuse our staff'
    your comment was a bit silly really
  • Thanatos wrote: »
    What a sad thread this is turning into - it seems everyone is very quick to pass judgement on others with very little information about their lives other than a short post.

    Calling people workshy and lazy? Telling people they have to sell their car with no real knowledge of their lifestyle? Generaising that british people believe some work is beneath them? Forigners get all the jobs? Dictating how long people should be expected to communte to work?

    This is supposed to be a forum about helping each other. It is most certainly not supposed to be a forum about passing judgement on others and name calling.


    as i stated in a earlier post it down to personal circumstances, which we take in to account.
  • tgon wrote: »

    Open question and without prejudice - does the Job Centre and its rules of engaging the unemployed have scope for considering a claimants career or is the goal to simply get people back to any form of work and off the JSA?

    of course, when you come to your first appointment we look at your qualifications, previous work and try and find jobs to match, after a certain period of time we send customers on courses to brush up on skills and help them in interviews etc.

    However many people point blank refuse to go on these courses or try help themselves, this is when benefit is suspended, as per the guidelines we follow set out by parliament (not us at the jobcentre as many think.)

    most claimants find work in the first 6months, some stay on for years and dont like hearing that they will have to take a job in a shop or factory for instance, of course we have targets to meet , but it got to be 2 sided , if you check your JSAG, you will see you have to actively seek work. Believe me we do not want arguments or to upset people, many of us have been unemployed ourselves so know what it is like, the only ones we get abuse off are the ones who do not follow the rules.
  • Mrs_Ryan
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    I cant believe some of these posts.

    Telling someone they should sell their car and are just lazy??? I bet that comes form someone who lives near a town centre/where there is decent transport. I can wholly sympathise with IsoChick... I too live in a rural area where thankfully the bus service isnt bad, but it aint great either. My partner works in an area which is not accessible by bus. I.E - THERE IS NO BUS SERVICE. AT ALL. EVER. The nearest bus service stops I think a good 30-45 minutes walk away and this place is not one where you want to be late at night. I went for a job on that estate working exactly the same hours as my partner, a few units down, and despite telling them that my partner could take me and pick me up no problem, the dozy idiots at the recruitment agency refused to put me forward for the job 'as i had no means of transport there and back!!'
    Some areas, believe it or not, a car is essential. I could get to work and back on public transport (I could actually walk in a dire emergency but it would have to be that and only part-way as part of the only route is along the A50) We cant even access a supermarket here on the bus - the only supermarket nearby has had the bus stop taken out of use. I used to travel 2 and a half hours to Nottingham each day and it used to cost me nearly 300 pounds a month - I only used to earn 5-600.
    I was on JSA for a couple months back a couple of years ago and to be fair I never got pressured into a job I didnt want to or couldnt do. I got a job off my own back but I can understand why some people dont want certain jobs - unsociable hours arent suitable for everyone but I definitely think if you turn down a job because there is no way you can do it you shouldnt have your money docked - its not your fault if the jobs say the other side of the city and you have no transport. And sometimes the Job Cnetre staff arent exactly useful - when I signed on cos I got thrown off my uni course he looked at the letters from the uni and said 'Right. Have you got your P45??!!' Oh for gods sake....
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