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BTLs to require license

As much as I am against red tape, this is long overdue.

http://www.contractoruk.com/news/004045.html

As we have seen on this forum, there are far too many incompetant and unethical BTLs. Homes are very important and a bad landlord can make one's life a misery. I welcome this move to impose better conduct on the BTL community.
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  • stevetodd
    stevetodd Posts: 1,016 Forumite
    macaque wrote: »
    As much as I am against red tape, this is long overdue.

    http://www.contractoruk.com/news/004045.html

    As we have seen on this forum, there are far too many incompetant and unethical BTLs. Homes are very important and a bad landlord can make one's life a misery. I welcome this move to impose better conduct on the BTL community.

    Oh dear yet another thread about this subject
  • Premier_2
    Premier_2 Posts: 15,141 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    macaque wrote:
    ...As we have seen on this forum, ....
    I don't know where you were looking, but you obviously missed this ;)

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1240921
    "Now to trolling as a concept. .... Personally, I've always found it a little sad that people choose to spend such a large proportion of their lives in this way but they do, and we have to deal with it." - MSE Forum Manager 6th July 2010
  • macaque_2
    macaque_2 Posts: 2,439 Forumite
    Premier wrote: »
    I don't know where you were looking, but you obviously missed this ;)

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1240921

    The link you provided is not the same article. Are you suggesting that, once an article has been posted, any additional information on same theme should be censored?

    This article has clearly stimulated an animated response from you and stevetodd. Is this because you and stevetodd are frightened about a clamp down on bad landlords?
  • stevetodd
    stevetodd Posts: 1,016 Forumite
    macaque wrote: »
    The link you provided is not the same article. Are you suggesting that, once an article has been posted, any additional information on same theme should be censored?

    This article has clearly stimulated an animated response from you and stevetodd. Is this because you and stevetodd are frightened about a clamp down on bad landlords?

    Did you even bother to read it????? How does my statement of "I was expecting bad news from the link but actually it's good news" indicate I am frightened? Are you often frightened by what you percive as good news? I find that very odd indeed.

    Why would I be frightened I am a chartered surveyor who manages my investment property EXTREMELY professionally and to a much much much higher standard than any licensing authority would set.

    In fact the only negative I posted was that I was concerned the licesnsing fees would be passed on to tenants:
    Also somewhere along the line this would at least in part end up being added to rents, so the tenants would also end up contributing towards this
  • N79
    N79 Posts: 2,615 Forumite
    If we are going to have such a regime I really hope that we will be able to spell licence correctly.
  • chucknorris
    chucknorris Posts: 10,795 Forumite
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    macaque wrote: »
    The link you provided is not the same article. Are you suggesting that, once an article has been posted, any additional information on same theme should be censored?

    This article has clearly stimulated an animated response from you and stevetodd. Is this because you and stevetodd are frightened about a clamp down on bad landlords?

    How have you arrived at that conclusion when one of them actually appears to be 'for' licensing (stevetodd) and the other seems nuetral (premier)
    Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one birdThe only time Chuck Norris was wrong was when he thought he had made a mistakeChuck Norris puts the "laughter" in "manslaughter".I've started running again, after several injuries had forced me to stop
  • Premier_2
    Premier_2 Posts: 15,141 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    macaque wrote: »
    The link you provided is not the same article. Are you suggesting that, once an article has been posted, any additional information on same theme should be censored?

    This article has clearly stimulated an animated response from you and stevetodd. Is this because you and stevetodd are frightened about a clamp down on bad landlords?
    Both articles are based on the same original government-commissioned report by housing expert Julie Rugg, an academic at York University.

    I am not suggesting additional information on the same theme should be censored, but that it should be placed in the same thread as it relates to the same theme.

    Are you seriously suggesting MSE needs a new thread started everytime a different media outlet reports on the same original report? :confused:
    "Now to trolling as a concept. .... Personally, I've always found it a little sad that people choose to spend such a large proportion of their lives in this way but they do, and we have to deal with it." - MSE Forum Manager 6th July 2010
  • stevetodd
    stevetodd Posts: 1,016 Forumite
    Premier wrote: »
    Both articles are based on the same original government-commissioned report by housing expert Julie Rugg, an academic at York University.

    I am not suggesting additional information on the same theme should be censored, but that it should be placed in the same thread as it relates to the same theme.

    Are you seriously suggesting MSE needs a new thread started everytime a different media outlet reports on the same original report? :confused:

    Absolutely! Iimagine if we all just started our own threads instead of contributing to existing threads
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    macaque wrote: »
    The link you provided is not the same article. Are you suggesting that, once an article has been posted, any additional information on same theme should be censored?

    This article has clearly stimulated an animated response from you and stevetodd. Is this because you and stevetodd are frightened about a clamp down on bad landlords?

    There have been a number of posts across the boards that are merely links to the spewings of various "trade mags" or a newspaper (I use the term broadly) journalist's interpretation of what s/he thinks theRugg/Rhodes Review is about . Do they really come under the heading of "additional information" , worthy of their own separate thread ?

    From the thread to which Premier has linked -
    tbs624 wrote: »
    You can read the full report itself (preferable to any random journalistic/fundamentalist HPCer/strident pro-LL interpretations of its contents ;)) here

    For anyone who may struggle with digesting the 150 pages of the full report there is also a 15 page Executive Summary available here;)
  • macaque_2
    macaque_2 Posts: 2,439 Forumite
    stevetodd wrote: »
    Did you even bother to read it????? How does my statement of "I was expecting bad news from the link but actually it's good news" indicate I am frightened? Are you often frightened by what you percive as good news? I find that very odd indeed.

    Why would I be frightened I am a chartered surveyor who manages my investment property EXTREMELY professionally and to a much much much higher standard than any licensing authority would set.

    In fact the only negative I posted was that I was concerned the licesnsing fees would be passed on to tenants:
    Also somewhere along the line this would at least in part end up being added to rents, so the tenants would also end up contributing towards this

    Your could have ignored the OP but instead you posted a hostile response by saying "Oh dear yet another thread about this subject".

    It is also evident that you do have concerns and these relate to costs. Landlords with property in poor condition will be faced with heavy improvement costs. They will not be able to recover these from tenants.
    Chucknorris
    How have you arrived at that conclusion when one of them actually appears to be 'for' licensing (stevetodd) and the other seems nuetral (premier)
    Don't believe it. Premier and stevetodd cannot openly declare opposition to measures aimed at curbing bad landlords (for obvious reasons) but it is evident that they don't like it. They have to object by stealth and supression rather than showing direct opposition. It is comparable to GPs who scream blue murder about patient safety if someone tries to cut their salaries or increase their working hours.
    Premier
    I am not suggesting additional information on the same theme should be censored, but that it should be placed in the same thread as it relates to the same theme.
    I have not been on the forum for days. If I had been aware of the other thread, I would have put it there. What puzzles me is why you are so vexed about it.
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