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What is the reason to have no-claim bonus protected if insurer will ask about claims?
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What is the reason to have no-claim bonus protected if car insurer will ask wheither you have made any claims or had carr accidents?
This will obviously disclose that no-claim bonus was protected and there were claims.
So, what's the point?
This will obviously disclose that no-claim bonus was protected and there were claims.
So, what's the point?
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Accident history indicates the sort of risk you may be.I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.0
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You have protected your no claim bonus meaning you still get that discount.
However if you have made a claim, you are now a higher risk and therefore your premium should go up. (unless it wasnt your fault.)0 -
If you pay the extra premium to protect your no claims bonus the Insurer you pay the extra premium to agrees not to reduce your no claims bonus (This is a discount ranging from between around 60% to 70% off your premium). They agree not reduce your no claims discount providing you do not have more than normally two fault claims* with a set period usually either a 3 or 5 year period. Some companies "Guarantee your no claims bonus and in theory there is no limit to the amount of fault claims you can have.
In general terms if you had one fault claim in three years you would not lose your no claims bonus but may attract a premium loading of say 10% for having a fault claim (Many companies will not load for one claim).
If you had not protected you no claims bonus you would normally lose 2 years of your no claims bonus which with most companies would mean your no claims discount would reduce from 65% to 50%. On a premium of £250 this would probably increase your premium by upwards of £70. In addition you may also attract a loading for having a fault claim of around another 10%.
If you have protected no claims bonus and have had a claim most (Not all) other Insurers will allow you to transfer to them with protected no claims bonus. They will normally deduct one of your "Lives" from your protected no claims bonus.
* A fault claim is normally regarded as a claim where the Insurer cannot recover them amount they paid out for a claim for instance an accident that was your fault, malicious damage, fire, theft, other driver leaving the scene of the accident without leaving their details or being hit by an uninsured driver (Some companies do not count being hit by an uninsured driver as a fault accident). Most companies do not regard a windscreen claim as a fault claim.
Most drivers start to protect their no claims bonus when they achieve maximum bonus and their age is acceptabe with the insurer etc as it provides peace of mind as the chances of their premium increasing through claims is reduced. The other reason is say your car gets hit in Tescos car park and the other driver kindly leaves the scene which is quite common now. You could claim on your policy with a minimal increase in premium and just have to pay your policy excess. If you did not have protected bonus it is often not worth claiming for minor damage after you take into account the increases in premium and your policy excess.
I personally recommend that the average driver paying a lowish premium keeps their excess low say £100 if they have protected no claims bonus so if they have say a hit and run in a car park they can put the claim in.
I hope this clarifies it for you, if not speak to your Insurer / Broker.
P.S Insurers only allow you to add Protected No Claims Bonus when you take the policy out or when its due for renewal.0 -
Thanks a lot for detailed explanation.
Do I understand it right that if NCB is protected it will still be deducted in case of fault claim but just less than the one without protection?0 -
No - check out from the policy how many claims allowed before no claims is affected. It's often 2 in a year before you "lose" any ncd when you have protected.0
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correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think anyone is answering the point the OP is making!
He's asking what's the point in paying for NCD protection, if at the same time as benefitting from the retained NCD discount, you suffer a premium increase in respect of claims - your premium still goes up by as much as the insurer sees fit, just that they blame it on the claims rating rather than the NCD!This is partly why i called it a "con" in another post (this plus the fact that insurers sell it to a lot of people knowing full well they're unaware of the claims rating part)
For example, suppose i had a full NCD discount of say 50% and had a claim
Then the insurer could do one of the following for next years premium which is at say £500 before NCD & claims taken into account:
-If NCD not protected: lose NCD discount, but do not rate on claim. So premium is £500 (i.e. no 50% discount for NCD as i lost it)
-If NCD is protected: keep NCD discount, premium reduced to £250, but suffer a 100% increase with respect to claims so premium is again £500
so no difference in premium even though you paid for NCD protection, and you kept your "50% discount":rolleyes:
This is why i am asking the question: What is the point?0 -
Don't know of any company that would apply a load of 100% for one claim its normally zero or upto 15% (25% if your unlucky). I'd rather have a small load like that than the load and lose my no claims bonus.
Your paying to protect your no claims bonus your not paying to stop any claims loading.
I will grant you a lot of people do not realise when they take out protected no claims bonus they might get a loading if they have a claim. That is an issue that the Insurers need to ensure is made clear0 -
Don't know of any company that would apply a load of 100% for one claim its normally zero or upto 15% (25% if your unlucky). I'd rather have a small load like that than the load and lose my no claims bonus.
Your paying to protect your no claims bonus your not paying to stop any claims loading.
I will grant you a lot of people do not realise when they take out protected no claims bonus they might get a loading if they have a claim. That is an issue that the Insurers need to ensure is made clear
the figs in my example were just to illustrate.
After all - how many companies geuinely give a "50% discount" for full NCD?
vast majortiy give a discount for zero NCD, so it wouldn't need a 100% claims loading to leave you back at square one (hopefully that makes sense?)0 -
the whole "50% NCD discount" is another con
how would you feel if you went to M&S and they were advertising a "50% off sale" and you noticed prices were only 25% lower than normal only to be told "well we always give 25% off every day of the year"
it's a nonsense (in my opinion of course)0 -
If you had lost your no claims discount due to claims very few companies would give you an introductory discount as this is normally subject to you fitting certain criteria including having no claims. I can't therefore see where you get that companies give a discount for zero ncd as in this example it does not work.
When your at work tommorow (Or do it now online) get a quote for an average client paying around £250 with protected bonus and then get the same quote with protected bonus and one fault claim. There wont be much difference in the premium probably about £200
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