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Exchange and complete on the same day?

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Hey, we are in the process of buying a house, had our offer accepted a week to ten days ago, the mortgage people have instructed the surveyers to go out tomorrow and do the Homebuyer's survey, they say that it will be a week to ten days after that they will give the mortgage offer, then i'm not sure what happens!! or how quick it will be from there.

But we are v excited about moving and want it to be as quick as posible, we rent at the moment so obviously have no chain, and the house we have bought is empty, someone mentioned exchanging and completing on the same day will obviously speed things up somewhat, is it possible based on our circumstances?

Many thanks
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  • kibs88
    kibs88 Posts: 86 Forumite
    It is possilbe but it is a lot easier to leave a gap inbetween.

    We completed last wednesday and complete this wednesday this is mainly becuase your mortgage lender needs 5 working days to transfer the money and so doing them both on the same day could be tricky, especially if anything goes wrong.

    Not only this but you will have to transfer your full deposit to the solicitor rather than 10% on exchange and the remainder on completion. As well as this many solicitors require payment of their fees before completion, if you do exchange and complete on the same day, but the solicitor has more work to do you may find yourselves getting another invoice later on down the line.

    You could have the problem of getting removals sorted and finding out that it has fallen through, as there have been many stories like this on the forums recently, so you would be stuck with everything packed and left with a removal fee.
  • cte1111
    cte1111 Posts: 7,390 Forumite
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    I've exchanged and completed on the same day for both the house purchases that I have made. The only obstacle was the solicitor, who couldn't cope with something slightly out of the ordinary, but there is no reason not to and I overrode her vague objections.

    In both cases, the previous owner had moved out and I was a first time buyer / investment buyer. Hope your house purchase goes relatively smoothly.
  • sancho
    sancho Posts: 486 Forumite
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    Thanks for the speedy replies.

    5 days won't be too bad, i suppose that gives us chance to hire the van and tell people we're moving etc. I, for some reason, thought it was 2-3 weeks between the 2.

    This might sound daft but can somebody explain the terms 'Exchange' and 'Complete' i think i know, but not entirely sure.

    Also, what sort of time frame might it be between the offer of mortgage and us having the keys?
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    http://www.firstrungnow.com/how-to-buy-a-house/

    Exchange - This is the exchange of contracts and where you pay the 10% deposit. Once signed the deposit is non refundable.

    Complete - final date where you pay the balance, get the keys and can move in.

    Very basic explanation - am sure someone else will offer a more detailed one!

    We offered and aim to complete within 2 months but that is quick to be honest (and if exchange is held up then it will take longer). The solicitor has lots of searches to carry out and if things get held up this will affect it.
  • The point about exchanging and completing on the same day has come up before.

    A solicitor will only exchange when:

    1. All searches in and all questions answered by other solicitors to his satisfaction.
    2. There is a satisfactory mortgage offer and conditions related to it have been satisfied.
    3. You have signed contract and provided 10% deposit.
    4. A date for completion has been agreed.

    Depending on the lender it will take a week or more to get the advance funds from the lender. Normally therefore there is a delay of about a week between exchange and completion. You can't exchange any earlier because all the pieces of the jigsaw need to be in place to exchange.

    What sometimes happens is that some minor issue has not been dealt with, which is not expected to be a problem, but just might be. Everybody in a chain wants to move on a particualr date but this last point is holding up exchange. It could be something like repeating a local search because that int he HIP is out of date. So the solicitors agree amongst themselves to work towards a particular completion date and they order the money from their respective lenders for thta date. Then when the last piece of the jigsaw falls into place (e.g. the search) they exchange. This could be 2 days before completion, the day before, or even the day of completion.

    The essential point to understand here is that it doesn't necessarily speed things up in terms of completing, and is not something that is normally planned. Also if removals etc are concerned the removal men will want a firmed up booking a week or so before completion so completing in a shorter time frame sometimes carries a risk of having to pay the removal men a cancellation fee if the move doesn't happen, because exchange doesn't happen because unexpectedly the search or whatever comes back with some adverse result.
    RICHARD WEBSTER

    As a retired conveyancing solicitor I believe the information given in the post to be useful assuming any properties concerned are in England/Wales but I accept no liability for it.
  • sancho
    sancho Posts: 486 Forumite
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    Thanks, that was a very useful answer :)

    Perhaps i am being unrealistic with my target of 5 weeks then! The house had sold before but the potential buyer pulled out due to 'financial issues' (EA words), we spoke to the vendor last week and she said that her legal side was pretty much done (due to the nearly previous sale), the HIP will provide the search info right? which will save time, where else could there be delays? Is there anything else i can do to speed things up?
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  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    If you only have a week between exchange and completion you will end up paying mortgage and rent at the same time - can you afford that? Notice on your rental property is usually one month from the date you normally pay rent, so it could easily be almost two months from the date of exchange if you have only paid rent a day or two before.
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  • SplanK
    SplanK Posts: 1,155 Forumite
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    12 months ago we managed to complete in 4 weeks.... helps been ubar efficient and pushing the solicitors a touch...

    we exchange and completed in the same day - at around 330 on a Friday - cutting it close! Although it helps that we were FTB's and the house was already vacent possession so there was nobody to move out.

    I suspect if there are a few people in a chain then its best to have a few days to get things organised, packed and a target to be moved out by but if the chain is very simple like ours - then there is no reason why the exchange/competion cant be same day!
  • dander
    dander Posts: 1,824 Forumite
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    Firstly, no the HIP won't provide the info for the searches - your solicitor will be checking all these things independently on your behalf. Secondly, the seller having had a lot of the legal work already done won't neccesarily help you - most of the legal work to be done is from the buyer's side. It means if there are any certificates or written proof of things that they need to supply, they should have them to hand, but your solicitor will still have to go through the process of requesting the information from the seller's solicitor first.

    The best way to keep things moving as fast as possible are, firstly, to make sure you tell your solicitor that you are keen to have a fast purchase and secondly to just keep in touch giving him regular calls to see how things are going. But if there are any snags that slow things down, do remember that the legal process is what protects you. Depending on how the process goes, it can be very stressful getting to exchange and it's actually quite nice to have that time before exchange and completion where you know the hard work is done and you can just take a breath and calmly prepare for the actual move.
  • Firstly, no the HIP won't provide the info for the searches - your solicitor will be checking all these things independently on your behalf. Secondly, the seller having had a lot of the legal work already done won't neccesarily help you - most of the legal work to be done is from the buyer's side. It means if there are any certificates or written proof of things that they need to supply, they should have them to hand, but your solicitor will still have to go through the process of requesting the information from the seller's solicitor first.

    HIP should provide drainage and local searches. They may be out of date. Depending on your mortgage lender if they are not out of date then it may not be necessary to repeat them.

    Buyer's solicitor will still have to ask questions. However seller's solicitors tend to send a standard pack out and then when buyer's solicitor spots something not dealt with they then obtain the information, documents etc. So second time round there is a tendency to add on any further documents to the papers sent out that the first solicitor's questions caused them to produce, so in that sense it can be a bit faster.
    RICHARD WEBSTER

    As a retired conveyancing solicitor I believe the information given in the post to be useful assuming any properties concerned are in England/Wales but I accept no liability for it.
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