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British gas calorific value

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savemoney
savemoney Posts: 18,125 Forumite
Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
Just checked by recent bill having inputting payments into excel recently

Noticed calorific value has changed since I went onto energy smart

It used to be

Calorific value see below

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Now its changed to screenshot 2


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Both bills are this in Feb as I changed that month into energy smart

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  • smidgey
    smidgey Posts: 163 Forumite
    It's nothing to do with you going onto EnergySmart™
    Calorific Value is the heat given out by the combustion of gas. The heat given off is determined by calorimeters that register a reading every eight minutes

    Gas supplied to customers’ homes is passed through a testing station where the calorimeter measurements are recorded. There are two stations, located at Elton, near Middlesbrough and Halton in the East Midlands. Either station can be used to take the measurements although one station’s recordings may have a higher Calorific Value than the other. We have provided an undertaking to the Department of Trade and Industry that the lower calorific value will always be used when calculating gas bills

    A British/Scottish Gas representative records the readings given by the calorimeters every Thursday. These readings are then used to determine the value we will use on bills to be produced the following week. This is done by calculating a rolling average, using each of the previous thirteen weeks’ lowest recorded values from the calorimeters

    Gas passing through the gas pipeline system has a Calorific Value of between 37.5 and 43.0 megajoules per cubic metre, with the exception of Stornaway which receives liquid petroleum gas. The Department of Trade and Industry checks the accuracy of the calorimeters, evaluates and certifies the readings every two weeks. The registered readings are in megajoules and for billing purposes, the number of megajoules is converted into British Thermal Units (BTU’s) by dividing by 0.0373

    It is the composition of the gas that changes the calorific value. Generally 90-93% is methane but it is the continual change in the higher hydrocarbons, which causes the value to fluctuate. These include ethane, propane and butane. The higher the content of these three components, the higher the calorific value.
  • savemoney
    savemoney Posts: 18,125 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    But why has it changed, it certainly changed from my last bill when I wasnt on energy smart

    I thought it was a constant figure

    You say it has nothing to do with energy smart but you give no explanation as t why it has changed
  • DirectDebacle
    DirectDebacle Posts: 2,045 Forumite
    edited 5 March 2010 at 12:25PM
    savemoney wrote: »
    But why has it changed, it certainly changed from my last bill when I wasnt on energy smart

    I thought it was a constant figure

    You say it has nothing to do with energy smart but you give no explanation as t why it has changed

    It isn't constant. It is explained here why it is variable:
    Gas passing through the gas pipeline system has a Calorific Value of between 37.5 and 43.0 megajoules per cubic metre, with the exception of Stornaway which receives liquid petroleum gas. The Department of Trade and Industry checks the accuracy of the calorimeters, evaluates and certifies the readings every two weeks. The registered readings are in megajoules and for billing purposes, the number of megajoules is converted into British Thermal Units (BTU’s) by dividing by 0.0373

    If you check back through your bills before you went on to Energy Smart you will find the C.V. varies occasionally. This applies to all energy suppliers, not just British Gas.
  • savemoney
    savemoney Posts: 18,125 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    edited 5 March 2010 at 12:46PM
    Okay thanks I have checked several bills but not all of them

    Just checked a 18month old bill and thats changed

    I never realised it did, I been trying to working out billing for my own peace of mind in excel and I found discrepancy hence why I found the calorific value had changed.
  • DirectDebacle
    DirectDebacle Posts: 2,045 Forumite
    savemoney wrote: »
    I never realised it did, I been trying to working out billing for my own peace of mind in excel and I found discrepancy hence why I found the calorific value had changed.

    What can happen and you should be aware of (for accuracy) are the occasions when an estimated bill is received and a reading is given to the supplier for re-billing on that reading.

    A revised bill will be sent and will show the reading you have given and the C.V. applicable at the time the new bill was raised. This may be different to the C.V. shown on the original estimated bill and will cause the bill to be calculated at the current C.V. It may cause you to pay slightly more for the gas than originally charged, or it may be less. It will show an anomaly on your spreadsheet if you haven't made this allowance.
    The gain or loss will be, in money terms, usually quite small.
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