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DMP & Mutual Support Thread - Part 11
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Good Evening,
I posted back in January when I was still in panic mode, not having a clue what to expect. Since then, I have been reading through previous threads and want to say thanks to everyone who posts on here, your knowledge is invaluable. I have felt so much more at ease starting a DMP journey being able to read your posts.
If you don't mind, I will tell you what's happened since January. We had hoped to start for 1st Feb start but due to sorting new bank we started 1st March, putting February's money to EF. I waited and waited for the daily letters/phonecalls, hardly anything.
My biggest worry was the big loan (just under £19,000) but apart from one letter to say we had cancelled the direct debit, we've had nothing else so far, 3 payments down.
Now, the credit cards. If anyone happens to remember my 1st post this were maxed out due to my husband gambling, his way of dealing with the death of his father, digging himself in a deeper hole trying to win to pay off the cards, this stopped when I found but is what tipped us over the edge to say, as there was no way we could meet even the minimums and is what led us to find out about Step change. Anyway.... Halifax has stopped interest + charges for duration of plan, same to MBNA. Tesco have agreed to 6 months, then review. At the beginning we had a letter from SC to say Barclaycard would not accept nor stop interest, but they only added it on the 1st month, the last two months its been 0%. I know these can all change but considering my husband was using those cards for gambling for 5 months and for nothing else, I didnt think we would see such a result so early on.
Next have been the biggest pain in my a** so far, the lowest debt by far too. First month they said my name was wrong (apprently I'd never updated to my married name) all sorted, til the next month when they said my name wasnt on the agreement at all! The lady I had on the phone that day was not helpful in the slightest, so I just rang back the next day and spoke to another lady who said it was nonsense as my name was clearly there. After trying to set up a plan and realises I wouldn't they terminated and defaulted the account. But because of these problems in the last 3 months, only £1.06 have gone off the original debt.
Sorry for such a long post, but just wanted to say the start of all this has been 100 times easier than I thought it was going to be, and with all your advice on here, I feel like I will be able to get through any tough parts, so thanks again. And thought maybe this would help anyone new joining, who may be feeling like I was back in January.
Hope you've all had a lovely weekend.
JD xSPC 11 - Number 322
2018 1% Challenge - Number 30
Debt: January 2016 - £29,524.74 :mad:
January 2018 - £19,769.910 -
Good Evening,
I posted back in January when I was still in panic mode, not having a clue what to expect. Since then, I have been reading through previous threads and want to say thanks to everyone who posts on here, your knowledge is invaluable. I have felt so much more at ease starting a DMP journey being able to read your posts.
If you don't mind, I will tell you what's happened since January. We had hoped to start for 1st Feb start but due to sorting new bank we started 1st March, putting February's money to EF. I waited and waited for the daily letters/phonecalls, hardly anything.
My biggest worry was the big loan (just under £19,000) but apart from one letter to say we had cancelled the direct debit, we've had nothing else so far, 3 payments down.
Now, the credit cards. If anyone happens to remember my 1st post this were maxed out due to my husband gambling, his way of dealing with the death of his father, digging himself in a deeper hole trying to win to pay off the cards, this stopped when I found but is what tipped us over the edge to say, as there was no way we could meet even the minimums and is what led us to find out about Step change. Anyway.... Halifax has stopped interest + charges for duration of plan, same to MBNA. Tesco have agreed to 6 months, then review. At the beginning we had a letter from SC to say Barclaycard would not accept nor stop interest, but they only added it on the 1st month, the last two months its been 0%. I know these can all change but considering my husband was using those cards for gambling for 5 months and for nothing else, I didnt think we would see such a result so early on.
Next have been the biggest pain in my a** so far, the lowest debt by far too. First month they said my name was wrong (apprently I'd never updated to my married name) all sorted, til the next month when they said my name wasnt on the agreement at all! The lady I had on the phone that day was not helpful in the slightest, so I just rang back the next day and spoke to another lady who said it was nonsense as my name was clearly there. After trying to set up a plan and realises I wouldn't they terminated and defaulted the account. But because of these problems in the last 3 months, only £1.06 have gone off the original debt.
Sorry for such a long post, but just wanted to say the start of all this has been 100 times easier than I thought it was going to be, and with all your advice on here, I feel like I will be able to get through any tough parts, so thanks again. And thought maybe this would help anyone new joining, who may be feeling like I was back in January.
Hope you've all had a lovely weekend.
JD x
I know some folk might see gambling as a self inflicted problem, but there is a school of thought that says addiction, gambling, smoking, drugs or alcohol, is a form of mental health illness and should be considered as such.
So happy things are working well with you, the technique of trying the next day with a different call centre person is a great tip and very useful for anyone finding themselves in a conversation that's just going nowhere. I did try it myself for a non debt issue and it worked well.
Good reassurance for newbies, thank you.Debt -it's a fight that I'm winning, dealing with debt one day at a time.
Estimated DFD August 2018 - 2031 - now 2027 :T
Guide dog Tess, missing Scotland 2 years
DMP support no438.0 -
Thank you Puzz for the reassurance.
I've read through the last two threads and think I've sort of got my head round it. The only thing I don't really understand is Charging Orders. Hubby and I are on a joint DMP with SC but none of our debts are joint debt (except the mortgage which is fully up to date). They're all unsecured CC debt in single names only. Our only joint debt is our mortgage which has around £28,000 left. Our home is valued at 150K however unless forced to we will never sell as the land has been in the family for generations.
Anyway thanks for your kind reply.
Hi and welcome to the thread
I'm with Puzz and the others, it's highly unlikely you'll even get a threat of a charging order, much less an order to sell. A charging order is basically a lien in your home when you do sell, I.e. If you sell you'd have to pay the owner of the charging order, sort of like making in unsecured debt secured I guess. I'm no expert on these and in my 3 years on the thread I've only come across one person who has come for advice on a charging order, so they are pretty rare.
Your debts seem to be in the standard ballpark for DMPers, some have less some more, some longer DFD some shorter. It looks like your debts are sim to mine, and I'm hoping to clear my mortgage in the same timeframe approx which will knock my DFD down from 2030 to hopefully around 2024 (or less but I hardly dare hope).
Keep your focus on affordable payments and getting your budget right and try not to worry about the 'what might happens', it probably won't.
Remember we are the good guys, not running away but facing our debt and planning to pay it back, just needing more time.
Good luck, and questions welcomed anytime on here.Debt -it's a fight that I'm winning, dealing with debt one day at a time.
Estimated DFD August 2018 - 2031 - now 2027 :T
Guide dog Tess, missing Scotland 2 years
DMP support no438.0 -
Hi everyone - been on a self managed DMP for about 18 months thanks to all the help and information from this forum. All going well except for barclaycard. We had a a formal reduced payment plan with interest at 0% and they wrote to us in January to say we had reached the maximum number of reduced payment options they can offer and if we couldn't meet the minimum payments they issue a default notice (good news for us- default is what we wanted).
They then wrote to us in february to say "good news" as a valued customer they can offer us a formal reduced payment plan!!!! And will be charging 12.9% interest! I complained and they investigated and they were unable to support our complaint. They said during the process "your account was monitored and in February it was identified that a formal plan was now available"
How can this have changed in 1 month- I am beyond staggered how they can change the goal posts like this.
Any advice how we can "make" them default us? If you know what I mean!!
All our other creditors have been no trouble at all!
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Hi everyone - been on a self managed DMP for about 18 months thanks to all the help and information from this forum. All going well except for barclaycard. We had a a formal reduced payment plan with interest at 0% and they wrote to us in January to say we had reached the maximum number of reduced payment options they can offer and if we couldn't meet the minimum payments they issue a default notice (good news for us- default is what we wanted).
They then wrote to us in february to say "good news" as a valued customer they can offer us a formal reduced payment plan!!!! And will be charging 12.9% interest! I complained and they investigated and they were unable to support our complaint. They said during the process "your account was monitored and in February it was identified that a formal plan was now available"
How can this have changed in 1 month- I am beyond staggered how they can change the goal posts like this.
Any advice how we can "make" them default us? If you know what I mean!!
All our other creditors have been no trouble at all!
many thanks
Hi,
As mentioned many times before BC are a law unto themselves... the only way to force their hand is to drop to token payments... Lucky for me they sold my debt.. bye bye BC...
Good Luck...
Puzz. xChristmas 2020 £109
I love my dmp started in Nov 13 with SC. Self Managed 2016 57% done
£60062/25384.84 - 13222.60k UE
MY DIARY http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=47686850 -
My DMP has been successfully set up today.
Feel like a massive weight has been lifted!2019 Wins
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£2019 in 2019
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Don't know if it's just a grumpy start to the week, but I'm finding I read this thread less and less now because it is just the same questions over and over again.
I like to think of myself as a DMP expert, that is not being big headed it's just that I am living it and know how to play the game. And at the end of the day it is a game, and honestly it's a very easy game if you just take time to read the info that is already here.
Guys this thread is now 138 pages long, and it's probably the 10th reincarnation of the original thread. So just to help people on their way
1. Please read as much of this thread before you post a question, honestly it will already be answered in these pages
2. Barclaycard will only stop interest if you stop paying them, or cut your payment to a token £1. Their key number is less than 1% of the total debt to stop interest. Stepchange can't handle this.
3. You are very unlikely to lose your house while on a DMP
4. You are very unlikely to get a CCJ while on a DMP.
5. CCJs and Charging Orders come when you ignore your debts. A DMP is not ignoring your debt.
These are not gospel by any means, but honestly folks, DMPs while not to be taken lightly as they will seriously damage your credit file, they are a godsend to people like you and me. And believe me when I say they are very very easy to manage your way around to get the best results for yourselves.
Slightly Grumpy BB
PS. My Numbers
Original Debt: 61k
Current Debt: 37k
No. of Creditors: 8
Total Interest Being Charged: £0.00
Defaults: 4 (1 being the holy grail of Barclaycardthrough token payments)
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sourcrates wrote: »Hi,
If all your debts are still with the original creditors, then any legal action is EXTREAMLY unlikely, creditors don't have the time or want the trouble to take everyone to court for what amounts to nothing more than a few small credit card debts.
The usual senario is the debts get sold around different DCA's, who will try to collect in full on them, court action is always threatened, it's used as leverage to get more money out of you, but only happens in less than 10% of cases, so quite rare.
Since 2013 when a creditor obtains a CCJ against you, they can apply for a charging order straight away, on a joint mortgage, it would only be a restriction, so an order for sale would not be possible, as said previously, orders for sale are very rare, and you have the chance to challenge the order, at every part of the procedure.
As long as you are paying your DMP, non of the above is likley to happen to you, stop worrying !!!!Hi and welcome to the thread
I'm with Puzz and the others, it's highly unlikely you'll even get a threat of a charging order, much less an order to sell. A charging order is basically a lien in your home when you do sell, I.e. If you sell you'd have to pay the owner of the charging order, sort of like making in unsecured debt secured I guess. I'm no expert on these and in my 3 years on the thread I've only come across one person who has come for advice on a charging order, so they are pretty rare.
Your debts seem to be in the standard ballpark for DMPers, some have less some more, some longer DFD some shorter. It looks like your debts are sim to mine, and I'm hoping to clear my mortgage in the same timeframe approx which will knock my DFD down from 2030 to hopefully around 2024 (or less but I hardly dare hope).
Keep your focus on affordable payments and getting your budget right and try not to worry about the 'what might happens', it probably won't.
Remember we are the good guys, not running away but facing our debt and planning to pay it back, just needing more time.
Good luck, and questions welcomed anytime on here.
Didn't want to hit the thanks button and run. thank you both for your insight and reassurance (and to Boldhoof and Puzz too). This thread is an absolute lifeline for those among us starting DMPs so :T0 -
Hi slightly grumpy bb....
loving your numbers.. thought I would add a few of my own...
original debt - £62002
current debt - £42952
number of creditors - 9
number of defaults - 8 - including BC(expecting the 9th any day now..)
current interest £0.00
number of CO's and CCJ's - NONE....
number of complaints successfully won - 1 x FOS (Creation) and
1 x DCA (PRA)
I started my dmp with SC in November 2013 and went self managed in February 2016.. No issues as yet but I have dropped to 50% payments for June so we will see...!
Love Puzz. xChristmas 2020 £109
I love my dmp started in Nov 13 with SC. Self Managed 2016 57% done
£60062/25384.84 - 13222.60k UE
MY DIARY http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=47686850 -
Hi Puzz,
Yours are very good too. I could force through a few more defaults, but at the end of the day to me 0% interest is more important.
I forgot I also complained (via email) to a DCA to tell them to stop texting me, and that I revoke my permission. When they did it again, I emailed again and they sent me £25 for my troubleLets hope they do it again soon
However I've not had to do any official complaints like you.
BB0
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