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Travel To Ireland - Do You Need A Passport?

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  • Pound
    Pound Posts: 2,784 Forumite
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    dzug1 wrote: »
    It's not a question of being 'let in' to Ireland - it's a question of being allowed to board the plane.

    Which airline let him fly - that's the important question.
    It was a ferry and he did have photographic ID when he boarded but not when he reached customs.
  • Tarry
    Tarry Posts: 11,195 Forumite
    Pound wrote: »
    It was a ferry and he did have photographic ID when he boarded but not when he reached customs.

    When coming back from Ireland October 2010 by ferry, when we got the Pembroke Dock we where pulled over by the police at the port and had to show ID. :o
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  • dzug1
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    Tarry wrote: »
    When coming back from Ireland October 2010 by ferry, when we got the Pembroke Dock we where pulled over by the police at the port and had to show ID. :o

    So what would have happened in the unlikely event of you having no ID at all? They'd have asked you a few questions and you'd be on your way - possibly having to present your driving licence (if you were travelling by car) at a police station.
  • Tarry
    Tarry Posts: 11,195 Forumite
    I'm not sure, I just made sure I had some ID with me. I don't drive myself, but the person I was with showed their driving license and myself my passport. They did ask a few questions, where I had been, where I was going, etc, etc, the standard questions
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  • kitekat
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    We are on the same page, but it's important to differentiate between the rules laid down by nation states and those laid down by airlines.

    There is no passport control between the United Kingdom and the Irish Republic.

    Littleoldme said "we had to go through passport control after landing so if you are flying with (Ryanair) at least you need your passport." I stress again that you do not need a passport to enter the Irish republic, regardless of airline used.

    Ryanair require a passport for travel, but this requirement is set by the airline, not by either jurisdiction. Even if you show your passport to board a Ryanair aircraft there is no need to produce the document on arrival.

    We are in the same territory of airlines offering fares for £10 plus £40 "taxes." A more honest statement is £40 for "tax and other charges." The tax paid to the government is £12. Anything above this is nothing to do with tax.
    I know this post is a year old and wish it were true.Booked a flight for myself and elderly mum to fly from U.K.to Ireland.Mum has never had a passport and has never needed one to fly within the U.K. before,she has photo id.We arrived at the airport on Mon excited about our holiday only to be floored by Ryanair not accepting my mums form of id and were told we would not be flying and to crown it all we have lost all the money we paid for flights.You can imagine the distress caused to a 78yr old and Ryanair could not have cared less.My gripe is that when i put the serial number of my mums id card into the relevant box on Ryanairs homepage it should have flagged up at that point that this was not an acceptable form of id,added to that it let me download a boarding pass for my mum.RUINAIR have our money and we have nothing to show for it.Has anyone else had this treatment by this dubious and diabolical lot.
  • catokelly
    catokelly Posts: 355 Forumite
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    edited 19 May 2012 at 5:26PM
    kitekat wrote: »
    I know this post is a year old and wish it were true.Booked a flight for myself and elderly mum to fly from U.K.to Ireland.Mum has never had a passport and has never needed one to fly within the U.K. before,she has photo id.

    My gripe is that when i put the serial number of my mums id card into the relevant box on Ryanairs homepage it should have flagged up at that point that this was not an acceptable form of id,added to that it let me download a boarding pass for my mum.RUINAIR have our money and we have nothing to show for it.Has anyone else had this treatment by this dubious and diabolical lot.

    Your Mother may never have needed a Passport for flying within the UK, but alas she was flying to Ireland which is not the UK.

    Your 'gripe' with Ryanair is that when you typed your mums id card serial number into their form asking for 'passport serial number' that it didnt flag up that the number was invalid - how was ryanair supposed to know that you had entered a number from a completely different document!! iI is up to you to ensure you read the website properly and enter the correct information. They merely ask for the passport serial number so that when you present your boarding pass they will check your actual passport aganst the number on your pass, it is not an online passport serial number checker!

    When you go through the booking process, the website does does make it very clear that you need a Passport. Its very easy for you to come up with the 'ruin air' thing and your sob story, however you are just cherry picking the bits that you want to make public, it is not their fault that you didnt read the website info properly.

    You also get an automated reminder email before your flight just in case you forget:
    IMPORTANT TRAVEL INFORMATION PLEASE READ
    RYANAIR TRAVEL DOCUMENT REQUIREMENTS:
    All passengers must present their online boarding pass and valid accepted travel document at the airport in order to travel.
    http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/faqs.php?sect=pid

    The link above then takes you to:

    In order to ensure compliance, passengers should carry a valid passport (and visa if applicable) or EU/EEA government issued national identification card on all journeys. Any fines, penalties, payments or expenditures incurred as a result of breach of these requirements shall be paid by or charged to you.
    Ryanair does NOT accept driver licences, residence cards, family books, seaman books, a police report (issued in the event of travel document loss/theft), military ID cards etc. Expired or damaged forms of photo-id will not be accepted on any flight.
    Details of all passengers’ travel documents (including those of children and infants) must be entered during the online check-in process. All passengers must present their valid travel document along with their online boarding pass at airport security and at the boarding gate for all flights.
    THE ONLY FORMS OF TRAVEL DOCUMENTS ACCEPTED ON RYANAIR FLIGHTS ARE:
    • A valid passport – (see below - */and ** below)
    • A valid National Identity Card issued by the government of a European Economic Area (EEA) country. (Only the following EEA countries currentlyissue National Identity Cards acceptable for carriage on Ryanair flights: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Finland, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Malta, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland)
  • SaveTheEuro
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    kitekat wrote: »
    I know this post is a year old and wish it were true.

    In what way is it not true? You do not need a passport to enter the Irish Republic, but Ryanair require their passengers to have a passport.
  • SaveTheEuro
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    catokelly wrote: »
    Your Mother may never have needed a Passport for flying within the UK, but alas she was flying to Ireland which is not the UK./QUOTE]

    The UK and the Irish Republic have a free travel area. Brits don't need a passport to enter Ireland and vice versa.
  • catokelly
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    edited 19 May 2012 at 5:52PM
    catokelly wrote: »
    Your Mother may never have needed a Passport for flying within the UK, but alas she was flying to Ireland which is not the UK./QUOTE]

    The UK and the Irish Republic have a free travel area. Brits don't need a passport to enter Ireland and vice versa.

    Im not debating that, just pointed out to the poster that they were flying to ireland not within the uk, because of their statement: 'Mum has never had a passport and has never needed one to fly within the U.K. before'
  • kitekat
    kitekat Posts: 1,283 Forumite
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    catokelly wrote: »

    Im not debating that, just pointed out to the poster that they were flying to ireland not within the uk, because of their statement: 'Mum has never had a passport and has never needed one to fly within the U.K. before'
    Meant to say we were flying to Derry(part of the U.K.)
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