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No you are incorrect. Go read it again.heating-eng wrote: »Think you will find that you said you hadn't done any,
Cheers
BTW this ridiculous exchange is really diverting the thread and seeing as its how you are continuing it and demonstrating on a post by post basis that you read what YOU want to read in order to score cheap points as opposed to what people actually write perhaps you were looking in the mirror when you wrote the "people like me" thingy nonsense.
Listys dad is spot on when he talks about this bickering.
10 minutes.
Edit: Right at 0945 I'm off. Bye.The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein0 -
Canucklehead wrote: »You mentioned both powerflushing and flushing in your previous post. I wonder how we trades (and DIYers) managed all those decades without powerflushing machines. Powerflushing is not a panacea and has been oversold to consumers. Your method for a manual flush is making hard work for yourself.
If anything, a magnetic filter e.g. Magnabooster 2, will serve a CH system well after a flush (whatever type that happens to be).
Canucklehead
P.S. We've had a Norstom since 2001.
I really wasn't gonna get into this pointless backbiting but as i'm in a really bad mood i will.
I too use a Norstom with the electric heater & the twin magnaclean (externally in-line), if my method of a man flush is hard work then how do you do it ?
I also use a TDS meter to show when the system is clean.
I always try to connect to the pump as this allows the flow to be reversed much easier & gives full flow through the system, as connecting onto a rad valve is very retrictive due to the small amount they open (see point below).
If you think you can get all the sludge out through an MT !!!! then you are seriously deluded.
In the old days before high effiency boilers the good old cast iron were much more forgiving with regard to blocked waterways & noise.
I agree with the fitting of a magnaclean & would always recommend them to my customers.
Yes you did but the implication from the context in which you wrote was that you meant powerflush. CH (who is a well respected member of this forum) was providing a needed clarification so I don't see why you need to get all in a tizzy about it.
Yes thanks - have you?
Yes it does and yes you can and a powerflush won't get it out of the rads either nor will it deal with solid magnetite. How on earth did we manage to survive before the invention of this process which is not a cure-all (although the likes of BG love to promote it as such)?
Seeing as a properly done powerflush cannot be completed in less than 4 hours and preferably more like 6 then this statement seems both illogical and absurd at the same time.
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If i had meant powerflush i would have said so whatever context.
No i've never done a man flush i'm a professional plumbing & heating engineer not a DIYer so i always use my powerflush machine (if needed in the first place).
You are correct about the solid magnetite however I use the magnaclean vibrator on the bottom of the rads to agitate the sludge, i'm not claiming that the system will ever be "clean" that would only be possible by replacing everything but it will clean the system as good as it's gonna get.heating-eng wrote: »As you have already said you have never done a powerflush, maybe you could leave at least one post to the people that know what there talking about.
If done correctly a powerflush is much better than a mains flush.
I also use a magnacleanse on my machine, this helps to cut down on the time needed to flush.
A good thing with the powerflush is that you can do it with the system hot ,this helps with the chemicals.
A mains flush is for cheap plumbers that do not want to invest money in doing The job right.
At last someone else that knows what they are talking about. :TI'm only here while I wait for Corrie to start.
You get no BS from me & if I think you are wrong I WILL tell you.0 -
Many folks are financially stretched and should be given value for money options: after all this is a moneysaving forum.
Too many on MSE have been scared into a powerflush by the likes of BG and A.N Others when alternative, cost effective solutions to CH problems are available. Read the hundreds of posts on various threads and you will see where people are coming from.
FYI, I am not an opponent of powerflushing and we recommend the procedure when it is in the best interests of the client's CH system.
It is unfortunate that you view healthy debate as 'pointless backbiting'. If you can't stand the heat get out of the boiler room.;)
CanuckleheadAsk to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)0 -
Just because you might be in a bad mood doesn't mean you have to take it out on peeps here.keithgillyon wrote: »I really wasn't gonna get into this pointless backbiting but as i'm in a really bad mood i will.
Who suggested that?If you think you can get all the sludge out through an MT !!!! then you are seriously deluded.
Yes thats what worries me about pumping all that carp around the system including the boiler. Surely if its that badly sludged up you don't want any of it near a newer boiler? Again, if its that bad then however you clean it runs the risk of nice little pinhole leaks - especially in that case of seriously corroded rads.In the old days before high effiency boilers the good old cast iron were much more forgiving with regard to blocked waterways & noise.
No - its not what you meant its how you expressed what you meant and how you left it open to interpretation by the way you expressed it. Not everyone is a mind reader.If i had meant powerflush i would have said so whatever context.
Please elaborate what you mean just in case this could be misunderstood.i'm a professional plumbing & heating engineer not a DIYer so i always use my powerflush machine
Ahh - great stuff. Absolutely.(if needed in the first place).
Thank you Sir. Personally I hate the thought of committing GBH on an ancient rad full of iron oxide (although Karl thinks that its iron filings LoL) with something attached to the end of an SDS drill and subsequently chucking all that stuff at the boiler.You are correct about the solid magnetite however I use the magnaclean vibrator on the bottom of the rads to agitate the sludge,
Why? Because he happened to agree with one thing you said?At last someone else that knows what they are talking about.
Cheers
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein0 -
powerflushing is expensive,
because it is a con, :cool: in most cases,:cool:
pumping chemicals around a central heating system
at 100 litres a minute when a bog standard central heating pump will do it at 50 to 60 litres a minute for free,makes no sense to most intelligent people,
central heating systems should be claned out with f3 and inhibited with f1, ***** from the get go *****
cowboy plumbers and the general public ignore maintaining systems,
or cannot get good advice..........which they deserve from tradesmen,
you will never recoup the costs,of powerflushing and big companies and small,have jumped on the bandwagon,which is wrong for hard working british people,:mad: if someone came into my house with what is basically a vibrator attatched to a drill and rattled my radiators to death i would throw them out,if the sludge was that bad the radiator would need replacing, they are cheap and thin nowadays,i remember 20 years ago plumbers said boilers should come with fernox capsules in the heat exchanger to make sure inhibitor would get in,it never materialised,powerflushing heating systems and rattling radiators to death with expensive drill attatchments,as a heating engineer with decades of experience and teaching......makes me laugh....:rotfl:pull the other one it has got bells on it ..........lol.......:)0 -
Karl - you know that despite that fact that you are really weird and post some real unmitigated nonsense at times I'm starting to like you - well only a teensy little bit mind. Don't let it go to your head.
CheersThe difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein0 -
Karl - you know that despite that fact that you are really weird and post some real unmitigated nonsense at times I'm starting to like you - well only a teensy little bit mind. Don't let it go to your head.
Cheers
you two are one in the same ..you both talk ****:TX British Gas engineer and X BG sales adviser.
Please don,t let this put you off.0 -
Pot, kettle, black.heating-eng wrote: »you two are one in the same ..you both talk ****:T
Another eydeetentee problem on the horizon.
CheersThe difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein0 -
I try my best to speak the truth , if you can see a post were I am wrong le me know.Pot, kettle, black.
Another eydeetentee problem on the horizon.
Cheers
Lots of experts on here that havent done the jobs that there commenting on.
We should be all trying to work together, but all you want to do is cause trouble.X British Gas engineer and X BG sales adviser.
Please don,t let this put you off.0 -
And your post number 69 wasn't about scoring points and causing trouble then. You are not a village idiot Alan so please don't act like one.
CheersThe difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein0
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