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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Something comes to mind right about now.....
Oh yes.
So after cleaver giving you a compliment about not being like geener, straight away you quote the compliment and act like geener.
Clever boy.0 -
What does that have to do with anything? I agree with you though, for what's it's worth.
Gosh I don't know cleaver. What possible relevance could the actual direction of house prices have on a forum dedicated to discussion of the same. :rotfl:What does that have to do with anything? I agree with you though, for what's it's worth.
How does that make you different from people who use this forum in exactly the same way as you? You're not the same as Hamish to be fair, as I think he's a lot more intelligent than you. But I think you're very, very similar to Sibley. On the surface you look different, but you could really be the same person.
But you also think its super insightful to point out that posters on the forum have a tendency to be polarised on either side of the debate. Which does rather negate the credibility of your opinions.
I'm going to guess you're one of those "content to be bearish when house prices are rising and bullish when house prices are falling posse".
A very popular (re)position post 2008.0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »So after cleaver giving you a compliment about not being like geener, straight away you quote the compliment and act like geener.
Clever boy.
Like I keep saying, not so big on the self awareness.0 -
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Gosh I don't know cleaver. What possible relevance could the actual direction of house prices have on a forum dedicated to discussion of the same. :rotfl:
That wasn't the point I was making, and you know that.But you also think its super insightful to point out that posters on the forum have a tendency to be polarised on either side of the debate. Which does rather negate the credibility of your opinions.
No, it's different than that. I've said many times before that there is a significant few on this website who don't have movable opinions on the housing market in the way that someone normal does. You and Brit will always, always, always talk down the market. You would never, ever dream of posting an article on here that was positive about the market. Admit it. You wouldn't, would you? You, Brit and the like are physically incapable of ever even admiting that house prices could possibly go up. You have a mind, or at least an attitute, to always see the worst in every factor about the housing market.
Don't worry about it, Sibley, Rinoa etc. will always do the mirror opposite to you. So in that way, you're exactly the same type of person. It's quite uncanny really.I'm going to guess you're one of those "content to be bearish when house prices are rising and bullish when house prices are falling posse".
This is a bit of your problem you see, as you tend to see economics as a few odd people on this forum. Are you basically asking me whether I'm bullish about a market when I see positive signs that it'll rise and that I would be bearish about a market when I saw negative signs that it might fall?
Erm, yes then. Guilty as charged. It is possible to be any other way? I mean in the normal world, not the MSE forum world for the dozen or so people who 'pick a side' and stick to it for the rest of their lives. For example, you and Brit aren't bearish about house prices. I don't think for a minute either of you would ever consider the facts in front of you and change your mind based on them. You've picked a 'side' and you're sticking to it. Same as Sibey.0 -
That wasn't the point I was making, and you know that.
Probably why I was obliged to point it out then eh.
Dunno, it just seems relevant somehow.
Sigh.
No, it's different than that. I've said many times before that there is a significant few on this website who don't have movable opinions on the housing market in the way that someone normal does. You and Brit will always, always, always talk down the market. You would never, ever dream of posting an article on here that was positive about the market. Admit it. You wouldn't, would you? You, Brit and the like are physically incapable of ever even admiting that house prices could possibly go up. You have a mind, or at least an attitute, to always see the worst in every factor about the housing market.
Don't worry about it, Sibley, Rinoa etc. will always do the mirror opposite to you. So in that way, you're exactly the same type of person. It's quite uncanny really.
This is a bit of your problem you see, as you tend to see economics as a few odd people on this forum.
Doesn't really stack up as an argument does it Cleaver.
Why should I be compelled to move or reconsider my position when my position has largely been validated by events.
I'll say it again. The fact that you've understood positions are polarised is deeply uninteresting.
But thanks for unearthing the universe shattering fact that bears tend to post bearish articles and bulls tend to post bullish articles.
Are you basically asking me whether I'm bullish about a market when I see positive signs that it'll rise and that I would be bearish about a market when I saw negative signs that it might fall?
Erm, yes then. Guilty as charged.
No, I'm basically telling you that this form of fence sitting is a very popular stance post 2008. When lots of posters suddenly realised that, y'know, they might just look a bit stoopid claiming house prices could never fall as they were in fact falling.
I was bearish about the market because I say signs that it would fall. I continue to be bearish about the market because I see signs that it will continue to fall.
Though apparently this is an entrenched position.
In the same way that the bullish position that house prices would never fall is an entrenched position.
Despite the fact that, y'know, they fell. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
It is possible to be any other way? I mean in the normal world, not the MSE forum world for the dozen or so people who 'pick a side' and stick to it for the rest of their lives.
Is it possible to be any other way? Well, er yes.
Rather than being a weathervane, you take a position based on an objective assesment of the evidence, and they you wait to see if that assesment bears out.
Not sure why this is a difficult concept to grasp.
Have to say, the jurys still out on what my opinion will be "for the rest of my life".
For example, you and Brit aren't bearish about house prices. I don't think for a minute either of you would ever consider the facts in front of you and change your mind based on them. You've picked a 'side' and you're sticking to it. Same as Sibey.
Yet bringing things full circle, in one critical and key way (though there are in fact others) I'm clearly not the same as Simpley.
Because house prices crashed. And its highly likely that the falls will continue. Sorry to break it to you.0 -
Interesting stats below, largely pointing to stagnation in my opinion.
Interesting to see the step change from Feb 2011, Feb 2010 and if you recall Feb 2009.
Many of us thought prices would not dip below the Feb 2009 levels and it certainly appears to be panning out that way.
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What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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Not like you to cherry pick the stats ISTL, but where are the Halifax figures?
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