Not in front of the kids Early Day Motion

DAME_3 · 21 June 2005 at 10:13AM

I think some people are missing the point here. This petition is not about the parents who spend time with their children, talking to them, explaining about real life and things like debt, nutrition, relationships, etc. If there were more parents like that, we wouldn’t have shows on TV like Brat Camp and Nanny 911, where children ‘rule’ the house.

michaels · 21 June 2005 at 10:43AM

Sorry if this sounds a bit negative but shouldn't we allow grown ups to make their own decisions? If people choose to use these products and indeed be pestered by their kids into using them isn't that their own choice. I don't presume to tell everyone who I see smoking a cigarette / driving with out a seat belt or whatever that although they don't know what is best for them I do and they really should listen to me, so why should I tell them which financial products they can and can't use.

xela_17 · 21 June 2005 at 11:14AM

Surely the point is though, that there are some things which should just not be allowed to advertise on children's channels. I don't know for definite but aren't there other things e.g. alcohol that aren't allowed? Why? Because they aren't suitable to be advertised to children. You're not telling the actual parents not to drink alcohol. Shouldn't these sorts of debt adverts be put in the same category?

Maria2_2 · 21 June 2005 at 11:14AM

Fair point, and as you say, if grown-ups choose to use these products, who can argue with that? But these aren't grown-ups, they're children.

What's your attitude to money going to be like if you're 18 years old and the only financial knowledge you have is gleaned from credit ads? That if life's getting you down, you can take a holiday on the never-never and everything will be okay? It wouldn't be half as bad if there was decent financial education (for young people especially), but there isn't. This campaign seems to be about helping people to make better financial choices rather than telling them what they can and can't do.

margaretclare · 21 June 2005 at 12:29PM

What's 'happy slapping', please teacher??

Aunty Margaret

xela_17 · 21 June 2005 at 12:46PM

margaretclare wrote:

What's 'happy slapping', please teacher??

Aunty Margaret

It's when a group of (usually) kids beat up another kid and video it or take pictures on their mobiles. Awful.

jawa1 · 22 June 2005 at 8:26AM

wolfytom wrote:

I agree with the priciple proposed by the webhost. However, I am rather concerned with the idea of forwarding the email to everyone I know! The email advertises the MSE website as well as the petition site.

Doesn't that count as spam?

Tsk tsk.

Just what I thought!....Martin you are asking "Please try and get this e-mail to every UK adult online!"....

Sorry but this is simply not on!

kidtechnical · 22 June 2005 at 9:47AM

Victors_Bruvver wrote:

However, as much as I admire and support this particular campaign I am cynical of the response that Martin and his fellow campaigners will get from either Ofcom, ITV, or the government.

I believe ITV got rid of the Crazy Frog because it was driving people nuts (they proudly proclaimed they no longer ran the ad when asked about complaints received about it)... so who knows, maybe they'll pull the plug on these ads. I get your point though, but what will they replace them with? More ads for toys, sweets & junk food? Ban all advertising during childrens TV schedules is what I say... or advertise produce!

prior446@hotmail.com · 22 June 2005 at 9:49AM

Sorry I can't support your campaign; you obviously have the best of intentions. But: what you propose is censorship. The only people who have the responsibility and the right to control what their children see on teleivision are the parents. They must control access, monitor content, discuss implications of advertising.

For the minority of parents who won't or can't do this a different approach is needed: how about all this energy being directed to them, instead?

kidtechnical · 22 June 2005 at 9:50AM

jawa1 wrote:

Just what I thought!....Martin you are asking "Please try and get this e-mail to every UK adult online!"....

Sorry but this is simply not on!

I also agree with this - I never fill in petitions recieved in the form of SPAM, I can never be sure if they're the real deal or an attempt to harvest gullable folks email addys for further SPAM. I'll sign this one as I know the source, but I won't fw it on.

Not in front of the kids Early Day Motion

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