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Breadmaking - recipes, hints, tips, questions
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My Breville BM said to put liquid in first followed by the dry ingredients, keeping the yeast away from the salt, but my Panasonic is the opposite way round and yeast goes in first, followed by flour, then the other dry ingredients with water last. I use either butter or oil, depending what I've got in plentiful supply, and both seem to be ok.
Good luck with the next one if you've already started it"An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"
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I'm starting it now ... but I think I'll put the dry ingredients in first with the yeast at the bottom, as I'm sure that's what my machine said. Apologies but I'm going with the majority this time. If it still fails, I'll try it the other way around.spendy/she/her ***DEBT-FREE DATE: 11 NOVEMBER 2022!*** Highest debt: £35k (2006) MY WINS: £3,541 CASH; £149 Specsavers voucher; free eye test; goody bag from Scottish Book Trust; tickets to Grand Designs Live; 2-year access to Feel Amazing App (worth £100); Home Improvement & Renovation Show tickets; £50 to spend on chocolate; Harlem Globetrotters tickets; Jesus Christ Superstar tickets + 2 t-shirts; Guardians of the Galaxy goody bag; Birmingham City v Barnsley FC tickets; Marillion tickets; Dancing on Ice tickets; Barnsley FC v Millwall tickets0
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Arghh! What a disaster.
I tried it again, making sure the yeast was completely separate from the sugar and salt, and it's just got too wet again at the dough stage, i.e. there was no dough, just a gloopy mess.
There must be something wrong with my scales as the flour is 1.5kg and the recipe asks for 500g. I calculate 2 loaves to be 1kg, but there's not much flour left and the battery is flashing up as Lo on the scales. But that would make it too dry rather than too wet, surely - unless there's also something wrong with my measuring jug.
I'm not going to have another go tonight. Misterholic has gone to get bread on his way back from the tip (or dumpy, as they call it oop here). But I will get the battery changed on the scales (or get new scales!) and I will try again before reverting back to the readymix - but this time, wet stuff first.
And I'll also get that search party out for the manual.
At least the potato, swede and carrot mash turned out well with enough for another day too.spendy/she/her ***DEBT-FREE DATE: 11 NOVEMBER 2022!*** Highest debt: £35k (2006) MY WINS: £3,541 CASH; £149 Specsavers voucher; free eye test; goody bag from Scottish Book Trust; tickets to Grand Designs Live; 2-year access to Feel Amazing App (worth £100); Home Improvement & Renovation Show tickets; £50 to spend on chocolate; Harlem Globetrotters tickets; Jesus Christ Superstar tickets + 2 t-shirts; Guardians of the Galaxy goody bag; Birmingham City v Barnsley FC tickets; Marillion tickets; Dancing on Ice tickets; Barnsley FC v Millwall tickets0 -
Oh dear. Can you not add some more flour to make it into a dough? I'm not sure if I've got this right - you're using 250g of flour?
As I said, I use 600g flour and about 380ml water (using my scientific method of 400ml and tip a bit away). I weighed out 600g and then measured it in cups, it was exactly four. My instruction book insists you mustn't use the cup to measure the flour but I do.
What make of breadmaker is it?0 -
Magentasue wrote:Oh dear. Can you not add some more flour to make it into a dough?
I probably could, but I'd have to interrupt the program on the machine - can we do that? - and probably either start it again or knead it myself.Magentasue wrote:I'm not sure if I've got this right - you're using 250g of flour?
The recipe on the back of the 1.5kg Hovis flour says:
500g Hovis strong white bread flour
25g butter
1.5 tsp salt
1.25 tsp fast action Hovis bread yeast
350ml warm water
2 tsp sugar (opt)
However, I've tried (and failed!) to make 2 loaves today out of that 1.5kg of flour but there's less than 500g flour left, which makes me think the battery on my (digital) scales flashing "Lo" is causing it to mis-weigh.
The "bread machine" recipe says to put the ingredients in the machine in the order listed above but to keep the yeast away from the salt and sugar.
The first time I made it this afternoon, it looked and smelled lovely with a great soft crust, but once cut into, it was still moist inside. The last time this happened I'd put too much water in (to the readymix).
The second time I made it this evening, it was just the gloopy, watery mess.Magentasue wrote:As I said, I use 600g flour and about 380ml water (using my scientific method of 400ml and tip a bit away). I weighed out 600g and then measured it in cups, it was exactly four.
And do you use fresh yeast or dried yeast?Magentasue wrote:My instruction book insists you mustn't use the cup to measure the flour but I do.
Mine came with a little plastic pot. I never thought of using it to weigh out the flour. I also have proper cups for measuring.Magentasue wrote:What make of breadmaker is it?
It's a Goodmans.spendy/she/her ***DEBT-FREE DATE: 11 NOVEMBER 2022!*** Highest debt: £35k (2006) MY WINS: £3,541 CASH; £149 Specsavers voucher; free eye test; goody bag from Scottish Book Trust; tickets to Grand Designs Live; 2-year access to Feel Amazing App (worth £100); Home Improvement & Renovation Show tickets; £50 to spend on chocolate; Harlem Globetrotters tickets; Jesus Christ Superstar tickets + 2 t-shirts; Guardians of the Galaxy goody bag; Birmingham City v Barnsley FC tickets; Marillion tickets; Dancing on Ice tickets; Barnsley FC v Millwall tickets0 -
Well, yes you can interrupt the cycle - but obviously before it has it's final rising!
I use easyblend dried yeast, either in sachets from Asda (one sachet per loaf) or from Lakeland, although I shouldn't really be allowed in Lakeland unless my purse has been taken away from me first.
My recipe sounds like yours
600g flour
1.25 tsp yeast
1.5 tsp salt
1.5 tablespoons sugar
380ml (ish) water
so it does sound as if your scales are out. I use the cup because it's easier, maybe next time you could use 300ml water and check it when it starts mixing?
I looked online for your manual (some like Morphy Richards are easy to find) but couldn't find it unless it's the same as another one by another manufacturer.
Once you crack it, it'll be sorted once and for all, don't give up!0 -
To check your scales, take an unopened pack of pasta or something that has very light packaging.
No need to open it - just pop it on the scales. If they read to within just a few grams of the weight listed on the packet - then they're fine. If they don't - then there's either a fault or, as is most likely in your case, the battery is low.Hi, I'm a Board Guide on the Old Style and the Consumer Rights boards which means I'm a volunteer to help the boards run smoothly and can move and merge posts there. Board guides are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an inappropriate or illegal post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. It is not part of my role to deal with reportable posts. Any views are mine and are not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.DTFAC: Y.T.D = £5.20 Apr £0.50
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squeaky wrote:To check your scales, take an unopened pack of pasta or something that has very light packaging.squeaky wrote:No need to open it - just pop it on the scales. If they read to within just a few grams of the weight listed on the packet - then they're fine. If they don't - then there's either a fault or, as is most likely in your case, the battery is low.Magentasue wrote:I looked online for your manual (some like Morphy Richards are easy to find) but couldn't find it unless it's the same as another one by another manufacturer.Magentasue wrote:My recipe sounds like yours
Thanks again. :hello:spendy/she/her ***DEBT-FREE DATE: 11 NOVEMBER 2022!*** Highest debt: £35k (2006) MY WINS: £3,541 CASH; £149 Specsavers voucher; free eye test; goody bag from Scottish Book Trust; tickets to Grand Designs Live; 2-year access to Feel Amazing App (worth £100); Home Improvement & Renovation Show tickets; £50 to spend on chocolate; Harlem Globetrotters tickets; Jesus Christ Superstar tickets + 2 t-shirts; Guardians of the Galaxy goody bag; Birmingham City v Barnsley FC tickets; Marillion tickets; Dancing on Ice tickets; Barnsley FC v Millwall tickets0 -
That didn't take very long at all - found it a while back and started to post, then the pc crashed!
It's a liquids first machine (sorry moggins), so I'm going to put Harry Potter away and read it.spendy/she/her ***DEBT-FREE DATE: 11 NOVEMBER 2022!*** Highest debt: £35k (2006) MY WINS: £3,541 CASH; £149 Specsavers voucher; free eye test; goody bag from Scottish Book Trust; tickets to Grand Designs Live; 2-year access to Feel Amazing App (worth £100); Home Improvement & Renovation Show tickets; £50 to spend on chocolate; Harlem Globetrotters tickets; Jesus Christ Superstar tickets + 2 t-shirts; Guardians of the Galaxy goody bag; Birmingham City v Barnsley FC tickets; Marillion tickets; Dancing on Ice tickets; Barnsley FC v Millwall tickets0 -
General tip:
I always heat each 1/2 cup of water for 20 seconds in the microwave and put it in first. I then add the other ingredients, leaving flour and yeast until last. I pile the flour in evenly covering all of the moist stuff underneath, and then put the yeast in last on top of the dry flour. This stops the yeast being activated until the machine is ready to mix it.0
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