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daughter's iphone stolen at school
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POPPYOSCAR wrote: »The trouble is today I doubt if any one would confess they would probably quote their 'Human Rights' at the teachers for being detained illegally!!!!
Even back in 1979, my Mum would have been in the classroom pulling me out of there telling that teacher to not be so bloody stupid. Some people are completely clueless - the woodwork teacher in question sounds like a prime example."One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
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Quite agree there were certain cases where we wern't allowed bags in labs ...however they were placed in lockers and locked up no problems.Many school don't allow bags in certain type of classrooms. Eg. science labs where there are people moving about and a trip into a set of glass equipment or chemicals could be hazardous. Bags often have to be left outside of the classroom in designated areas due to H&S. The teacher may well have had no choice.
I'm sure the teacher would have had other options than dumping them outside because if the security of the school runs to cctv I'm certain they would have secure options.
Yep when we were in exams we wern't allowed bags either but they used to be dumped at the front of the class where everyone including the teacher could see them.Originally Posted by mrcow
Or in exams or mocks tests, bags are often not allowed in the room depending on the set up of the room in question.
Why do we keep going back to the value of the phone ??? If it was a £30 phone would that mean it was the schools fault but not if it was a £300 phone ???Originally Posted by mrcow
The school is not to blame for someone flouting the rules and carrying around expensive personal equipment.
Working on that principle if the thief moves on to nick cars and targets a £100k Porsche that would be ok because the victim drives round in expensive kit but if it's a poor student with a £500 Escort that would be wrong ????
Theft is theft and teachers setting examples of not looking after belongings and taking no actions when one of their pupils is thief sends out all the wrong signals !
Quite agree however it seems common sense is rather lacking with the examples set by this school and the student should not have had to be put in that situation of having their belongings put in a vulnerable situation.Originally Posted by mrcow
As stated earlier, if the pupil was worried or interested in taking responsibilty for the £300 item in their bag, they should have flagged it to the teacher and asked for it to be looked after/locked away. A bit of common sense goes a long way.
I'm sure she would :rotfl:and I doubt the woodwork teacher was as clueless as the OP's one at least the problem was sorted and the thief dealt with :cool:Originally Posted by mrcow
Even back in 1979, my Mum would have been in the classroom pulling me out of there telling that teacher to not be so bloody stupid. Some people are completely clueless - the woodwork teacher in question sounds like a prime example.It's not just about the money0 -
Why do we keep going back to the value of the phone ??? If it was a £30 phone would that mean it was the schools fault but not if it was a £300 phone ???
No, but if someone has a £10 phone, it's far less likely to get nicked. If a pupil is walking around brandishing an expensive phone/internet games machine then they are drawing attention to themselves and their property.
I very much doubt if the pupil had had a £10 PAYG phone, then:
a. it would have got taken in the first place
b. the OP would have started a thread in the first place
It's rule one of crime prevention - don't leave valuable items lying around as you are advertising them to thieves. A school is no place for such an item.
As for the comments you've made about locking up bags etc........how many schools have you been in? That may have been how it worked in your particular secondary school, but you need to appreciate that not all schools have the same layout or set up to accomodate such measures.
Pupils are already told not to have phones on them. The school are not responsible for individual items that pupils may leave in their bags. Bags should contain books and stationary and perhaps a small amount of lunch or bus money (although ideally this should be in a money belt).
Your old woodwork teacher btw sounds like a jerk. There is no way that anyone should hold an entire class of pupils on suspision of theft for up to three hours after school. It's people like that who bring a bad name to the profession - if they are showing such a blatant lack of judgement and common sense over a pair of football boots, it brings into question whether they should be entrusted to set an example in a position of authority to children at all!"One day I realised that when you are lying in your grave, it's no good saying, "I was too shy, too frightened."
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Why is everyone saying the same thing over and over again. No wonder the OP has gone away!0
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MrCow, I think Silks comments are trolling you.
Honestly 'the school is to blame'. Ask what the insurance companies would make of that claim.....you wont get away with "the teacher told me to do it"...lol.....furthermore can you imagine taking a school to court over this? it will go like this.....
Claimant "I had my phone nicked and the school has to pay"
Court "did you tell the teacher to keep it safe"
Claimant "no"
Court "then go away"0 -
Even back in 1979, my Mum would have been in the classroom pulling me out of there telling that teacher to not be so bloody stupid. Some people are completely clueless - the woodwork teacher in question sounds like a prime example.
Very different mum to mine - she probably would have been happy if they kept us in until the next day!!0
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