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  • davidgmmafan
    davidgmmafan Posts: 1,459 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    "Since a number of banks have changed their terms and conditions on charges(or fees if you would like me to call them) then a further case is unlikely to reach a goal that the OFT are after. Many cases in court may well be based on charges historically rather than necessarily newer charging structures."

    You could take the view that this position was, in itself unreasonable. Effectively saying whatever is done is done (whether fair, right or not) lets worry about the future. But then again I appreciate they are a publically funded body and are limited in what they can achieve.

    I agree with the point about Joe Public not having the means if the OFT doesn't, and I am also concerned that, having failed in thier legal challenge whether the OFT has the clout to bring about the positive changes that are so badly needed.

    I believe there are several reasons why the Ombudsmen might be a better route (and a couple of pitfalls to avoid).

    Firstly every complaint to the FOS costs the bank £3-400 (may be more than this now). This IS NOT a reason to complain, the FOS will take a dim view if you complain just to cost them money.

    Secondly the FOS is meant to be used by ordinary folk, you don't have to use proper legal terminology (though if you can I certainly would).

    Thirdly there is not cost to the individual and, in light of the costs mentioned above, if the claim is for a relatively small amount the bank may settle rather than let it go to the FOS.

    Cons to consider the FOS are human and make mistakes, I once had a case where thier reply suggested they did not understand the DD guarantee.

    The FOS can't consider the complaint if its already been to court, not sure of the situation with a stayed claim.

    And finally the FOS are impartial, they can and do make the bank pay to settle a claim. However impartiality means if you don't make reference to the correct law or code of practice they won't consider this. They can only work with what is in front of them and can't fill in the gaps for either side.

    PS You are correct sir Nationwide, to thier credit, did not change thier T & C's. I don't beleive this makes any difference to claims unfortunately :(
    Mixed Martial Arts is the greatest sport known to mankind and anyone who says it is 'a bar room brawl' has never trained in it and has no idea what they are talking about.
  • orc_2
    orc_2 Posts: 563 Forumite
    edited 20 January 2010 at 5:04PM
    According to the latest MSE newsletter- today, it will be a couple of weeks before the templates will be ready on MSE.

    This is due to the amount of work involved.

    Templates are however available at the Govan Law web site. http://govanlc.blogspot.com/ Take care in their use however, and it is a personal decision as to whether or not to use them or adapt them.
    Please ignore those people who post on this forum who deliberately try to misinform you. Don't be bullied by them, don't be blamed by them. You know who I mean.
    You come here for advice, help and support- thats what I and like minded others will try to do.
  • natweststaffmember
    natweststaffmember Posts: 12,063 Forumite
    edited 20 January 2010 at 7:58PM
    "Bank Charges Update... We're still working on the new guide, there's a lot to get through and it's taking a little longer than expected, we hope it'll be ready in the next few weeks. Do remember, while we believe some will still be able to reclaim, for most it will be tough, so plan NOT to get the cash. Latest Info: Bank Charges Reclaiming!"


    From the bank charges email

    Govan Law Centre templates are above in Orc's post which I had missed earlier on.

    So we will soon find out whether it is similar or different to the above. Not sure that will help those with 8 week timeframes though ;)
    I have not worked for NatWest Bank since February 2009

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  • I think it's looking likely that those with 8 week deadlines may need to act before the MSE templates are released. My personal cut off is the 14/02/10.

    Is it possible to send in the Govan templates and hope for a few weeks before the banks reply, in which time we may see the MSE templates and submit them as a new POC change?
  • bankkiller
    bankkiller Posts: 105 Forumite
    edited 22 January 2010 at 10:40AM
    hey guys,
    anybody on here who can help?
    my original court case was stayed,
    and then last month when I sent them the new recent template letters using new arguments, I got this response recently.
    Wonder if anybody else has got any responses yet?

    what do i do next?

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  • esmerellda
    esmerellda Posts: 2,237 Forumite
    edited 21 January 2010 at 7:22PM
    funnily enough I saw your letter on PCF, its very interesting, thank you for posting it. Hopefully someone will be able to assist you with your next steps.
    LegalBeagles
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