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    • By Bored 16th Apr 19, 5:25 PM
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    Should I be on an economy 7 tariff?
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    • 16th Apr 19, 5:25 PM
    Should I be on an economy 7 tariff? 16th Apr 19 at 5:25 PM
    I recently bought a flat which is all electric. It has an immersion heater and hot water cylinder but the heaters are standard electric (non-storage) heaters.

    At the moment I have the immersion heater on for an hour in the morning for my shower and an hour in the evening for washing machine and dish washer but I feel the price is a bit high. Would I save money switching to an economy 7 tariff and heating the hot water during the night? Or should I stick with a standard tariff and adjust the immersion heater schedule?

    Any other tips to reduce the cost would be appreciated. I'd love to get my bill down below 50 per month.

    Thanks in advance
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    • thorganby
    • By thorganby 16th Apr 19, 5:42 PM
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    Washing machines and dishwashers have not had a hot fill for a long time!
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    • By Bored 16th Apr 19, 5:58 PM
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    Washing machines and dishwashers have not had a hot fill for a long time!
    Originally posted by thorganby
    Ohhh, I'm really showing my ignorance here.
    • Robin9
    • By Robin9 16th Apr 19, 6:26 PM
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    Have you your readings from when you moved in and of today ?

    I presume you did ring the existing supplier when you moved in and then made a guess as to your consumption and switched to a different supplier ?
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    • By Bored 16th Apr 19, 6:35 PM
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    • 16th Apr 19, 6:35 PM
    Have you your readings from when you moved in and of today ?

    I presume you did ring the existing supplier when you moved in and then made a guess as to your consumption and switched to a different supplier ?
    Originally posted by Robin9
    My meter reading last November was 68457 (a month after I moved in, when I switched to a new supplier), and a fortnight ago it was 70356 (when I had a smart meter installed).
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    • By Bored 16th Apr 19, 6:37 PM
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    Currently, I appear to be using about 8-14 kWh per day, albeit with a small sample of around 14 days since the smart meter was installed.
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    • By mmmmikey 16th Apr 19, 6:40 PM
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    Hi - I suspect you'll be much better off staying on a standard tarriff as a cheap E7 night rate means a more expensive E7 day rate for the heaters, which is a real killer. Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if you hit you 50 per month target anyway by the time we get to the end of the year - you'll probably see your consumption start to go down very quickly now as we go through spring into summer. The beauty of the smart meter is that you'll easily be able to see this happening. HTH Mike.
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    Hi - I suspect you'll be much better off staying on a standard tarriff as a cheap E7 night rate means a more expensive E7 day rate for the heaters, which is a real killer. Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if you hit you 50 per month target anyway by the time we get to the end of the year - you'll probably see your consumption start to go down very quickly now as we go through spring into summer. The beauty of the smart meter is that you'll easily be able to see this happening. HTH Mike.
    Originally posted by mmmmikey
    Thanks for the advice. Yes, the heaters were my concern too. I tried not to rely on them too much over the winter but I still ended up using them for a few hours or so on really cold days.

    The smart meter has made me more of a scrooge then usual so I'm sure I'll reduce it now I have my new gadget, even if that means washing my dishes by hand.
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    • By mmmmikey 16th Apr 19, 7:01 PM
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    even if that means washing my dishes by hand
    Originally posted by Bored

    the dishwasher was the one appliance I gave up in my energy saving journey. Given that I always used to fill a bowl of water anyway to wipe round the kitchen surfaces and clean the odd thing that wouldn't go in the dishwasher, I've found it's not been a big deal to get in the habit and has made a worthwhile contribution to my savings.

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    • By macman 17th Apr 19, 12:21 AM
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    A dishwasher (they have always been cold-fill, since they need to be supplied with drinking-quality water off the rising main) will use less energy and water than washing up by hand. Typically, run once a day, it might cost you 1 a week.
    You will undoubtedly reduce your bills by switching to E7, but it could take you several years to recover the capital cost of removing the convectors, installing NSH's, rewiring for them, and changing the meter. So it depends how long you are thinking of living there. I'm assuming that this is a new build or recent build, and the developers have cynically put in a heating system with the lowest capital cost (but the highest running costs).
    Last edited by macman; 17-04-2019 at 12:23 AM.
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