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    • Santos101
    • By Santos101 9th Aug 18, 11:11 AM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 11:11 AM
    Pay With(out) Ease 9th Aug 18 at 11:11 AM
    Hi,

    Iím hoping I can get some help here for my next step. Iím on the receiving end of two parking tickets from parkwithease.co.uk who use ANPR at Betteshanger Country Park.

    1st Ticket Ė

    Ticketed (via ANPR) on the 16/10/2016 but parking notice only received by post on the 24/10/2016, I informed them that POFA rules state they need to contact me within 14 days. They declined my appeal saying they donít use POFA.

    2nd Ticket Ė

    Ticket (Via ANPR) on the 20/08/17. I tried to pay in cash, however the machine wouldnít take my coin. I returned home and tried on the payment portal (they give you 48 hours to pay) but found my existing fine (above £50) was showing, and I was unable to pay the £2 to park online (They insisted I pay £52). I emailed paywithease the following day and asked them to remove the existing charge and allow me to pay Ė they declined saying this would be unethical. I asked to appeal and didnít hear anything further from them

    Iíve now received two ĎNotice of Outstanding Debtí from PS&P for £120 each demanding payment.

    What do you think I should do?
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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 9th Aug 18, 11:25 AM
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    Who are PS&P?
    Please note, we are not a legal, residential or credit advice forum, rather one that helps motorists fight private parking charges, primarily at the 'front-end' of the process.
    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Santos101
    • By Santos101 9th Aug 18, 11:30 AM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 11:30 AM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 11:30 AM
    Hi.

    PS&P Ltd a debt collection agency.
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 9th Aug 18, 11:32 AM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 11:32 AM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 11:32 AM
    Hi.

    PS&P Ltd a debt collection agency.
    Originally posted by Chris Kirby
    Follow advice in the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #4.
    Please note, we are not a legal, residential or credit advice forum, rather one that helps motorists fight private parking charges, primarily at the 'front-end' of the process.
    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Edna Basher
    • By Edna Basher 9th Aug 18, 11:53 AM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 11:53 AM
    A very small debt collection agency - according to the unaudited financial statements submitted to Companies House for the year to 30 April 2018, PS&P Limited had an average of 1 person employed (including directors) during the year. It's essentially a one-man operation.

    Keep an eye out for PS&P's "Third Request" letter which will warn that "should the balance remain outstanding and you have failed to submit an acceptable proposal after [Date], we shall instruct an External Collection Agent to attend your premises for the purposes of collecting the debt in full".

    Although debt collection agencies may like to write lots of scary things in their letters, in my view this crosses the boundary into harassment territory.
    • Santos101
    • By Santos101 9th Aug 18, 1:45 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:45 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:45 PM
    Thankyou - I'll draft up some letters tomorrow
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 9th Aug 18, 1:55 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 1:55 PM
    Thankyou - I'll draft up some letters tomorrow
    Originally posted by Chris Kirby
    What sort of 'letters', and to whom?

    The advice to ignore at debt collector stage doesn't include any letter writing.
    Please note, we are not a legal, residential or credit advice forum, rather one that helps motorists fight private parking charges, primarily at the 'front-end' of the process.
    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Santos101
    • By Santos101 9th Aug 18, 3:18 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 3:18 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 3:18 PM
    Hi,

    The suggestion was to ignore or write to the debt collection agency denying debt. Then write to the PPC and appeal with a template provided.

    At least thats what I took from it.

    Chris
    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 9th Aug 18, 3:21 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 3:21 PM
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    • 9th Aug 18, 3:21 PM
    Hi,

    The suggestion was to ignore or write to the debt collection agency denying debt. Then write to the PPC and appeal with a template provided.

    At least thats what I took from it.

    Chris
    Originally posted by Chris Kirby
    There is no such suggestion here


    There is clear advice to ignore debt collectors completely!


    If you have inadvertently used your real name as your forum name then you need to get MSE to change it to something truly anonymous AND edit it from your post


    Apart from breaking forum rules, the ppcs monitor this forum and can use posts in your thread against you
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 9th Aug 18, 3:25 PM
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    The suggestion was to ignore or write to the debt collection agency denying debt.
    That can have the effect of the debt collector thinking 'Hello, we've got a bite here, let's ratchet up the pressure'. One thing for sure, it won't stop them in their tracks.

    Then write to the PPC and appeal with a template provided.
    But the most recent ticket is almost 12 months old and the other one moving towards 2 years of age. What are you hoping for by appealing so late?
    Please note, we are not a legal, residential or credit advice forum, rather one that helps motorists fight private parking charges, primarily at the 'front-end' of the process.
    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
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