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    • andyutd08
    • By andyutd08 28th Jul 18, 11:37 AM
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    PCN Hx car park management
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    • 28th Jul 18, 11:37 AM
    PCN Hx car park management 28th Jul 18 at 11:37 AM
    Good morning everyone, so i have received a PCN from Hx for parking in Lancaster, and have used these forums to appeal and then appeal to IAS and no shock here i'm sure they have both been rejected. Also using these forums i have started to prepare my response to the coming LBC i am expecting to arrive at some point.
    so the PCN was given for not purchasing a ticket within 10 minutes, it should be clocked at 11 minutes and 30 seconds approx. the driver paid for 1 hour and stayed in the car park for a total of 1 hour and 14 secs (arriving to leaving) i have tried to keep this bit brief so to not confuse.
    My question is, Am i in the wrong here? for refusing to pay the "fine" of 100 for a total of 90 seconds?
    Last edited by andyutd08; 28-07-2018 at 1:52 PM. Reason: change a detail
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    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 28th Jul 18, 12:05 PM
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    • 28th Jul 18, 12:05 PM
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    • 28th Jul 18, 12:05 PM
    Of course you aren't wrong not to pay!

    Needing a defence is a long way off.

    Ignore everything except a lbcca or Court correspondence.

    If you get that come here for advice on how to deal with this before responding

    The newbies FAQ thread covers Court claims in #2

    Had you only come here before doing so you would have realised why an IAS appeal is to your detriment and to the advantage of the PPC who can now point out that an independent adjudication has agreed with them!
    • RobinofLoxley
    • By RobinofLoxley 28th Jul 18, 1:04 PM
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    • 28th Jul 18, 1:04 PM
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    • 28th Jul 18, 1:04 PM
    If you've researched using the forum and read the 'Newbies' thread you should know not to use the word "I" as in "I parked", "I did this" etc. Always refer to the driver, "The driver parked" etc.

    HX don't utilise POFA so can't transfer the liability for the charge to the Keeper.

    PPC's monitor the forum, so I would suitably edit your post so as not to indicate who was driving.
    • haribow
    • By haribow 7th Aug 18, 11:02 AM
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    • 7th Aug 18, 11:02 AM
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    • 7th Aug 18, 11:02 AM
    Hi which car park in Lancaster was this? As a driver known to me has just received a PCN regarding the same issue (not purchasing a ticket within 10 minutes)
    • andyutd08
    • By andyutd08 15th Aug 18, 9:16 PM
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    • 15th Aug 18, 9:16 PM
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    • 15th Aug 18, 9:16 PM
    It was the car park opposite the bus station in lancaster
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 15th Aug 18, 10:40 PM
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    • 15th Aug 18, 10:40 PM
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    • 15th Aug 18, 10:40 PM
    the driver paid for 1 hour and stayed in the car park for a total of 1 hour and 14 secs (arriving to leaving)
    The driver did nothing wrong, but expect to have to defend a court claim unless you can get your MP on side and to add weight to a complaint about this, when the MPs are back from recess. They might cancel if an MP writes to point out the unfairness of penalising a paying driver who didn't overstay.

    No appeal will work but a court defence and turning up to a hearing, in the end, will likely win this case. Bloody ridiculous that this is legal, that the likes of HX and scumbag PPCs can drag people to court and cause such stress for no reason whatsoever.

    IMHO, anyone who works for any PPC should hang their heads in shame.

    If any such 'people' are reading this thread - how about this - get a real job and do something useful for Society, not a scam. Open your eyes to what you are doing and it's NOT ''parking management'' nor is it looking after land or doing anything of any use whatsoever except lining your own pockets and that of your greedy ex-clamper bosses.

    That is not a raison d'etre for a job. Go get a real one, even if you are young. This is not a position for good people, not something you can do and hold your head up high.
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 15-08-2018 at 10:45 PM.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • luverlyjubbly
    • By luverlyjubbly 16th Aug 18, 1:12 PM
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    • 16th Aug 18, 1:12 PM
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    • 16th Aug 18, 1:12 PM
    Indeed, and they keep banging on about ethical parking management on their website - utter b*ll*cks.
    They exist simply to catch people out and rip-off with a 100 con.
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 16th Aug 18, 1:15 PM
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    • 16th Aug 18, 1:15 PM
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    • 16th Aug 18, 1:15 PM
    Indeed, and they keep banging on about ethical parking management on their website - utter b*ll*cks.
    They exist simply to catch people out and rip-off with a 100 con.
    Originally posted by luverlyjubbly
    Nail on the head.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
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