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Hospital staff receives PCN from UKPC on to DRPL
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Carmen_Jay
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Thank you Coupon for allowing me to jump on a recent thread and for Keith telling me to divert my issues into a new thread.
So to re-preach my story / girl @ works for those who don't know:
I work at a Hospital and have done so for approx 4 years. I pay 30 quid a month for a hospital "permit" just like the other staff members do. They are stuck on our windows in all our cars.
We have a gravel-pit car park (one of 3) (the one I parked in at the time of receiving a fine from UKPC in Oct 2016) and a few random signs (built by UKPC) to state to be parked in a bay (impossible if it's gravel) + to not block road-ways (again impossible as there is not a road even laid out). So - cut a long story short, we all know who drove which car, we blocked each other in and sometimes, not in the neatest of ways but the signage was totally void. We had all read up on UKPC etc and knew they were crooks from day-dot. We had even caught one in the act & managed to scare him off from even placing one on a window. And to add P in p*ss take - HE PARKS HIS CAR IN OUR GRAVEL CAR PARK WITH NO SIGNS TO STATE WHO HE IS AND ALSO SOMETIMES IN A DOCTORS BAY... so we logically have photos of that on our phone too.
Anyway: our fines came through thick and fast in November 2016. It was like they wouldn't stop. I ended up getting 3, others got 1 and others got probably 1 per week for 6 weeks straight.
Me:
Fine no. 1 = not displaying a valid permit (definitely was and always am)
Fine no. 2 = not parked in a bay (definitely no bays as per above statement)
Fine no. 3 = parking in a road way (same as per above)
Now when I got the 1st fine, I contacted them, provided some evidence re Fine no.1 to say I do have a permit & it got written off straight away and appealed fine no.2 and 3 and got my appeals rejected. I ignored the 14 day letter so quickly this pushed onwards to UKPC. In a nutshell, spoke to them ONCE (young scared and silly) and arranged a payment plan saying I was leaving the Hospital as I got made redundant - not true - all I could afford. They asked for breakdown in earnings. I scanned & pinged it across. I rang back three times & each time they claimed they hadn't received it. I gave up. They asked where I lived via phone and I tried my luck, told them on-site at the Hospital - they actually took my word for it. So when I did not commit to the "payment plan" to pay off 100£s worth of fines, they sent all these letters (approx 5) to my work address. They did not go out their way to do what you should do and obtain my address where the car is registered to (now I am told by Coupon this could've been the period when UKPC lost their license - I cannot really recall UKPC or DPRL being at the top of the letters and when. as they all look the same) either way I never could quite work it out. Somehow they stored my mobile number from the one time I called them with some abuse... then it went quiet by January 2017.
Not until today (May 2018) had I received (first time ever) call from Debt Recovery Plus Ltd (I didn't answer) and a voicemail saying Carmen this is very urgent please call us blah blah blah. And still, until this day (I have moved house 3 times over 3 years but every time AND ON TIME I have changed my license and where my car is registered to) I have not had one letter to my home address nor have I even to this date, received a letter at work - from UKPC or DRPL since January 2017. Or even a missed call.
I will add at this point, one colleague got NINE tickets over 6 months. She got her invite through from Surrey County Court (Woking) today. But I feel you have to be thick to get 9. After the 3rd I just got over myself and parked an extra 5 minutes walk from my office in a "bay" like carpark for staff and just had to leave 20 minutes earlier to get a space at work...
A few questions here now in light of my situation but I think the ultimate question is:
if they do not have my details (I thought it was UKPC that got banned from obtaining demographics of car owners not DPRL-that is who I am dealing with) i.e address, do I assume they won't write to me in light of the above and just keep ignoring their calls? I know my situation isn't as far down the line of others and I know I am to "sit-tight" until the premium letter from a local borough court comes in... if it comes in...
So to re-preach my story / girl @ works for those who don't know:
I work at a Hospital and have done so for approx 4 years. I pay 30 quid a month for a hospital "permit" just like the other staff members do. They are stuck on our windows in all our cars.
We have a gravel-pit car park (one of 3) (the one I parked in at the time of receiving a fine from UKPC in Oct 2016) and a few random signs (built by UKPC) to state to be parked in a bay (impossible if it's gravel) + to not block road-ways (again impossible as there is not a road even laid out). So - cut a long story short, we all know who drove which car, we blocked each other in and sometimes, not in the neatest of ways but the signage was totally void. We had all read up on UKPC etc and knew they were crooks from day-dot. We had even caught one in the act & managed to scare him off from even placing one on a window. And to add P in p*ss take - HE PARKS HIS CAR IN OUR GRAVEL CAR PARK WITH NO SIGNS TO STATE WHO HE IS AND ALSO SOMETIMES IN A DOCTORS BAY... so we logically have photos of that on our phone too.
Anyway: our fines came through thick and fast in November 2016. It was like they wouldn't stop. I ended up getting 3, others got 1 and others got probably 1 per week for 6 weeks straight.
Me:
Fine no. 1 = not displaying a valid permit (definitely was and always am)
Fine no. 2 = not parked in a bay (definitely no bays as per above statement)
Fine no. 3 = parking in a road way (same as per above)
Now when I got the 1st fine, I contacted them, provided some evidence re Fine no.1 to say I do have a permit & it got written off straight away and appealed fine no.2 and 3 and got my appeals rejected. I ignored the 14 day letter so quickly this pushed onwards to UKPC. In a nutshell, spoke to them ONCE (young scared and silly) and arranged a payment plan saying I was leaving the Hospital as I got made redundant - not true - all I could afford. They asked for breakdown in earnings. I scanned & pinged it across. I rang back three times & each time they claimed they hadn't received it. I gave up. They asked where I lived via phone and I tried my luck, told them on-site at the Hospital - they actually took my word for it. So when I did not commit to the "payment plan" to pay off 100£s worth of fines, they sent all these letters (approx 5) to my work address. They did not go out their way to do what you should do and obtain my address where the car is registered to (now I am told by Coupon this could've been the period when UKPC lost their license - I cannot really recall UKPC or DPRL being at the top of the letters and when. as they all look the same) either way I never could quite work it out. Somehow they stored my mobile number from the one time I called them with some abuse... then it went quiet by January 2017.
Not until today (May 2018) had I received (first time ever) call from Debt Recovery Plus Ltd (I didn't answer) and a voicemail saying Carmen this is very urgent please call us blah blah blah. And still, until this day (I have moved house 3 times over 3 years but every time AND ON TIME I have changed my license and where my car is registered to) I have not had one letter to my home address nor have I even to this date, received a letter at work - from UKPC or DRPL since January 2017. Or even a missed call.
I will add at this point, one colleague got NINE tickets over 6 months. She got her invite through from Surrey County Court (Woking) today. But I feel you have to be thick to get 9. After the 3rd I just got over myself and parked an extra 5 minutes walk from my office in a "bay" like carpark for staff and just had to leave 20 minutes earlier to get a space at work...
A few questions here now in light of my situation but I think the ultimate question is:
if they do not have my details (I thought it was UKPC that got banned from obtaining demographics of car owners not DPRL-that is who I am dealing with) i.e address, do I assume they won't write to me in light of the above and just keep ignoring their calls? I know my situation isn't as far down the line of others and I know I am to "sit-tight" until the premium letter from a local borough court comes in... if it comes in...
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if UKPC were not banned back when these INVOICES (not "FINES") were issued, then they can get DVLA details and can pass them onto DRPL for chasing up, which they often do
DRPL SHOULD BE COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY IGNORED, THEY CAN DO NOTHING - see post #4 of the NEWBIES FAQ for information on ignoring debt collectors and their letters
you wont receive any papers from a local borough court, that is DEFINITE , assuming you are in England or Wales
the 2 government offices that issue court claims for E & W are the bulk centre in Northampton AND the manual centre in Salford
the chances are it or they will come from Northampton CCBC (google it)
eventually it will be allocated to your local county court , from the CCBC
until UKPC or their solicitors send a formal LBC , or court papers via Northampton CCBC , you can and should sit tight
ideally you want these to be cancelled by the landowner, I assume that is the trust themselves ?0 -
Thanks for the reply.
Funnily enough the hospital does not own the land. It is leased. As are a lot national foundation trusts plots. It’s owned by a big boss company probably a Bank.0 -
Carmen_Jay wrote: »Thanks for the reply.
Funnily enough the hospital does not own the land. It is leased. As are a lot national foundation trusts plots. It!!!8217;s owned by a big boss company probably a Bank.
Are you sure about that? Sounds like a PFI hospital, but they are usually built on NHS land
Which hospital.
Hit the Trust with a Freedom of Information request asking who owns the land.
You can do it by email & you don't have to give your real name, but you can't use Mickey MousePrivate Parking Tickets - Make sure you put your Subject Access Request in after 25th May 2018 - It's free & ask for everything, don't forget the DVLA
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