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    • fatbeetle
    • By fatbeetle 22nd Feb 18, 12:04 PM
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    Moving a meter
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    • 22nd Feb 18, 12:04 PM
    Moving a meter 22nd Feb 18 at 12:04 PM
    Our leccy meter will need to be moved, as part of our building restructure. Also, as it's a"key meter" I had installed for my tenants, I would like that changed.

    Has anyone had any experience with such a move?

    Any advice on meter siting (indoors/outdoors) or meter type?

    Thanks in advance.
    “If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and who weren't so lazy.”
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    • CashStrapped
    • By CashStrapped 22nd Feb 18, 12:12 PM
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    When you say "moved". Do you mean just the location of the meter i.e moving it a bit left of right.

    Or do you mean the incoming supply and where it comes into the building, so in effect moving the meter to a whole different location.

    If it is the latter, the incoming supply is managed by your local distributor, or DNO. They will charge you a large amount for moving the incoming supply. No one else can do that. So you must get a quote from then for them.

    Changing the meter and maybe moving it's location a tiny bit (left or right a bit) is the responsibility of your current provider.

    Anything after the meter i.e the consumer unit, is your responsibility.
    Last edited by CashStrapped; 22-02-2018 at 2:23 PM.
    • NineDeuce
    • By NineDeuce 22nd Feb 18, 12:14 PM
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    • 22nd Feb 18, 12:14 PM
    You will need to get an electrical contractor to carry out the electrics to allow the meter to be moved, ensuring that your network operator knows.

    The supplier should change your meter free of charge.
    • fatbeetle
    • By fatbeetle 22nd Feb 18, 4:05 PM
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    • 22nd Feb 18, 4:05 PM
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    Thanks both. The meter will need to be moved to a more suitable location, as where it is now will become a shower/bathroom.

    I'm in contact with both Western Electricity, and EDF the supplier, so am aware that they will both need to be involved.

    Would an external meter be cheaper/better? Or should I request it be located in the building?

    My builder/sparky has agreed to move the fuse board to a spare bedroom, is there any advantage in keeping the meter with the fuses?
    “If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and who weren't so lazy.”
    • CashStrapped
    • By CashStrapped 22nd Feb 18, 4:22 PM
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    • 22nd Feb 18, 4:22 PM
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    You have to talk to the DNO, in your case Western Electricity.

    The cost may depend on where you want it moved and how far and the work involved. But, as they are the only one that can do the work, it is usually quite a lot.

    There is no right or wrong choice in terms of outside or inside.

    What is more convenient for you in terms of checking your meter? Will it look appropriate to the property in a external box? It will be more convenient for the meter reader when he/she comes round to do their check (they don't have to knock on your door). Do you want the meter, and consumer unit (fuse box) all in once place?

    There is no right or wrong answer. Just as long as it is convenient and appropriate for you.



    So, up to you.

    You need to check if there is a set fee for moving it or are certain locations/distances more expensive.

    Normally it is quite expensive regardless of where you move it.
    Last edited by CashStrapped; 22-02-2018 at 4:24 PM.
    • spiro
    • By spiro 24th Feb 18, 9:15 AM
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    You have to talk to the DNO, in your case Western Electricity.

    The cost may depend on where you want it moved and how far and the work involved. But, as they are the only one that can do the work, it is usually quite a lot.

    There is no right or wrong choice in terms of outside or inside.

    What is more convenient for you in terms of checking your meter? Will it look appropriate to the property in a external box? It will be more convenient for the meter reader when he/she comes round to do their check (they don't have to knock on your door). Do you want the meter, and consumer unit (fuse box) all in once place?

    There is no right or wrong answer. Just as long as it is convenient and appropriate for you.



    So, up to you.

    You need to check if there is a set fee for moving it or are certain locations/distances more expensive.

    Normally it is quite expensive regardless of where you move it.
    Originally posted by CashStrapped
    I don't think they have set fees. Depending on route of the cable into the house and the old/new meter location, it may mean a new cable from the street, this can cost thousands and take weeks to plan. Talk to WPD asap and they can advise you of the options available.
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    • ProDave
    • By ProDave 24th Feb 18, 9:52 AM
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    This is usually a 2 stage process.

    A competent electrician will be needed to move your consumer unit to a more suitable location and this needs to be done first.

    Then your electricity supplier must come and move the supply head and the meter. It is their equipment, nobody else can legally move it. As it's a move at your request, there will be a charge and it might be a big charge. So FIRST get them round to give you a quote to move the supply head and meter to where you want it. When you have their quote and have picked yourself up off the floor you might re think the project.
    • spiro
    • By spiro 24th Feb 18, 10:51 AM
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    • 24th Feb 18, 10:51 AM
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    • 24th Feb 18, 10:51 AM
    This is usually a 2 stage process.

    A competent electrician will be needed to move your consumer unit to a more suitable location and this needs to be done first.

    Then your electricity supplier must come and move the supply head and the meter. It is their equipment, nobody else can legally move it. As it's a move at your request, there will be a charge and it might be a big charge. So FIRST get them round to give you a quote to move the supply head and meter to where you want it. When you have their quote and have picked yourself up off the floor you might re think the project.
    Originally posted by ProDave
    If by Supply Head you mean the main intake fuse, that can only be moved by the DNO. So you need to coordinate 3 parties; electrician (main consumer unit), supplier (meter) and DNO (incoming cable and main fuse).
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    • CashStrapped
    • By CashStrapped 24th Feb 18, 11:37 AM
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    So you need to coordinate 3 parties; electrician (main consumer unit), supplier (meter) and DNO (incoming cable and main fuse).
    Originally posted by spiro
    I hate co-ordinating parties, especially if they are themed.........I'll bring the cakes though.
    • fatbeetle
    • By fatbeetle 25th Feb 18, 8:20 AM
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    Dear god, it;s all FAR more complex than I would have thought!

    I'll update as and when events occur.
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    • MeterMan
    • By MeterMan 25th Feb 18, 4:27 PM
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    Its not that complicated to be honest.

    Step one, Ask DNO for a quote on relocating the cutout/service cable.
    Step two has two outcomes, 1 realise its costs too much and relocate the shower, or 2, pay the DNO to move.

    Step 3 tell your supplier that you will need a reconnection after service alteration in the afternoon of your planned day for moving the service.

    Step 4 hire and electrician to reconnect up from the newly installed isolator by the supplier to your fuse box.
    • J B
    • By J B 25th Feb 18, 4:55 PM
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    My builder/sparky has agreed to move the fuse board to a spare bedroom, is there any advantage in keeping the meter with the fuses?
    Originally posted by fatbeetle
    Our meter is outside and the fuseboard in the utility at the opposite side of the house.
    • JC_Derby
    • By JC_Derby 25th Feb 18, 7:15 PM
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    Should be a sub main....protected by a fused switch from the meter to the consumer unit.
    • fatbeetle
    • By fatbeetle 10th Mar 18, 11:27 AM
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    Paid the nice people at Western electric the £780 they need to move my meter a metre!
    “If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and who weren't so lazy.”
    • CashStrapped
    • By CashStrapped 10th Mar 18, 2:12 PM
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    Paid the nice people at Western electric the £780 they need to move my meter a metre!
    Originally posted by fatbeetle
    Sounds about correct. They may not have a set fee, but they certainly have a minimum fee, and the minimum fee is extortionate.

    Anything slightly complicated and I would expect it to go up exponentially.

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    • fatbeetle
    • By fatbeetle 11th Mar 18, 3:23 PM
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    Cheers CS!
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    • JC_Derby
    • By JC_Derby 11th Mar 18, 3:40 PM
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    Paid the nice people at Western electric the £780 they need to move my meter a metre!
    Originally posted by fatbeetle
    they aren't just moving the meter though. Cutting your service cable outside, jointing through and reterminating into a new cut out a new meter box and providing you with an isolating switch to reconnect your tails into.
    • MeterMan
    • By MeterMan 11th Mar 18, 3:59 PM
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    they aren't just moving the meter though. Cutting your service cable outside, jointing through and reterminating into a new cut out a new meter box and providing you with an isolating switch to reconnect your tails into.
    Originally posted by JC_Derby
    DNOs dont usually reconnect the electric meter, or my DNO doesn't at least. Metering and Isolator work is carried out by the supplier, free of charge from my employer.
    • fatbeetle
    • By fatbeetle 13th Apr 18, 7:51 AM
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    Well all done and dusted on the meter move, all very efficiently done, with minimum fuss. We will now contact EDF and ask them nicely to change the meter to a "smart meter".

    At present we have no power apart from 2 x 4 plug extension leads, as the house is being rewired.
    “If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and who weren't so lazy.”
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