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    • Zadzad
    • By Zadzad 8th Jan 18, 8:27 PM
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    Zadzad
    Small claims court.
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    • 8th Jan 18, 8:27 PM
    Small claims court. 8th Jan 18 at 8:27 PM
    I have commenced small claims action against VGL Services who despite their attempts to bluff are part of viagogo.

    I served papers to the vgl offices through the court and they had until the 8/1 to respond. The claim was for £350 and on the basis of breach of their own terms selling items that did not exist and under the consumer rights act.

    Saturday I received a special delivery letter from a major law firm suggesting that the two companies are not linked and therefore the paperwork was served wrong and advising that I should drop my action.

    There is proof from a number of sources that the companies are linked namely several media articles, a visit by MPs and etc.

    There was also a post under tickets to say someone a month ago had tried the same route - company - address and acts and the case was not defended.
    All of a sudden that person has not posted here or on FB.

    I think the letter is to bully me to drop case.

    If I proceed I know there will be a court fee to pay all refundable if I win.

    My question is IF I was to lose at this stage would I be liable for any defence costs.

    Itís a minefield trying to find the answer.
    I have also tried to find out if there is a central register of small claims judgements to see if the post about a success is true.

    Many thanks for any advice.
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    • bris
    • By bris 9th Jan 18, 7:24 PM
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    bris
    You're not even putting in a proper claim, you can't sue someone for not selling you something.


    If you believe you had a proper contract (just making an offer isn't a contract) that was breached then your claim is for "loss of bargain". Did you take the necessary steps to win this?


    First thing you have to do is find the item elsewhere for the best price you can get it (mitigating the loss) then you need to actually buy it, bid you buy it? Then you can take them to court for the difference of what you paid against what they were charging.


    So If you were buying something for £350 and the breached this contract then you found the next best price was £400 then you can only sue for the difference £50 plus costs.


    I don't think you actually know what you're even doing here, first you're suing the wrong company and second are you actually suing for the correct reason.


    As for costs as it stands you will lose your own costs and the judge will make you pay their reasonable costs as they will not be impressed that you made this claim in the first place.
    • steampowered
    • By steampowered 9th Jan 18, 8:34 PM
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    No, but as he's acting for himself the litigant in person rates can be claimed at £19p/h (all monies are obviously at the discretion of the court)
    Originally posted by CIS
    Not in small claims track - in small claims track (claims below £10k) costs like this are only awarded against a party who has behaved unreasonably in how they conducted the litigation.

    This is only applied in a small number of cases to punish bad conduct (for example people who bring completely vexatious claims, or ignore court deadlines, swear at the judge etc. etc.)

    The small claims track costs rules are available here for anyone who wants to read them: https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part27#27.14
    • auntjo
    • By auntjo 15th Feb 18, 1:22 PM
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    A quick question if I may.

    I am taking my Credit card company to court over its refusal to pay up over s75 CCA. The claim is likely to be over £10k, however I still have to confirm this. The claim is for a bad plumbing and incomplete work. If I claim in the small claims court and they awarded me £10k, can I then make any further claims if I find the works to put the faulty work right costs more than £10k?

    I prefer the small claims track as from what I understand it is much quicker than regular court.

    thanks
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 15th Feb 18, 3:23 PM
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    DoaM
    Have you raised a complaint and followed the complaints procedure?

    Have you received a Deadlock letter from the card provider?

    Have you raised a case with FOS?
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    • waamo
    • By waamo 15th Feb 18, 4:01 PM
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    A quick question if I may.

    I am taking my Credit card company to court over its refusal to pay up over s75 CCA. The claim is likely to be over £10k, however I still have to confirm this. The claim is for a bad plumbing and incomplete work. If I claim in the small claims court and they awarded me £10k, can I then make any further claims if I find the works to put the faulty work right costs more than £10k?

    I prefer the small claims track as from what I understand it is much quicker than regular court.

    thanks
    Originally posted by auntjo
    What has this to do with Viagogo?
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    • steampowered
    • By steampowered 16th Feb 18, 4:21 PM
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    steampowered
    A quick question if I may.

    I am taking my Credit card company to court over its refusal to pay up over s75 CCA. The claim is likely to be over £10k, however I still have to confirm this. The claim is for a bad plumbing and incomplete work. If I claim in the small claims court and they awarded me £10k, can I then make any further claims if I find the works to put the faulty work right costs more than £10k?
    Originally posted by auntjo
    Generally speaking you only get to claim once in relation to the same matter.

    I prefer the small claims track as from what I understand it is much quicker than regular court.
    Small claims track uses the same judges and courts as the other tracks - unless the claim goes to the High Court (generally only claims more than £100k) it all goes through the county court system.

    SCT isn't much quicker to be honest. The main difference is the costs rules - i.e. once you get above small claims track, the loser pays the winner's legal costs.
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