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What to do if you ignored the ticket?
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Misty_Blue
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Asking on behalf on my daft friend!
He parked in a Matalan car park on 3 November while he went to a shop a couple of doors away, not realising if he left the site he was liable for a parking charge. There is signage but he parked at the edge of the car park and didn't see it. Having been ticketed, he Googled and found advice just to ignore the ticket, which he did.
Now I've told him that, to my understanding, things have changed and this isn't the advice any longer.
We've read through the newbies thread but of course the time for appeal is up. What's his best course of action now? No Notice to Keeper has been received.
The parking charge issuer is UKPC, a BPA member.
He parked in a Matalan car park on 3 November while he went to a shop a couple of doors away, not realising if he left the site he was liable for a parking charge. There is signage but he parked at the edge of the car park and didn't see it. Having been ticketed, he Googled and found advice just to ignore the ticket, which he did.
Now I've told him that, to my understanding, things have changed and this isn't the advice any longer.
We've read through the newbies thread but of course the time for appeal is up. What's his best course of action now? No Notice to Keeper has been received.
The parking charge issuer is UKPC, a BPA member.
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Having been ticketed, he Googled and found advice just to ignore the ticket, which he did.Now I've told him that, to my understanding, things have changed and this isn't the advice any longer.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4/enactedWe've read through the newbies thread but of course the time for appeal is up.No Notice to Keeper has been received.What's his best course of action now?The parking charge issuer is UKPC, a BPA member.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
Thanks for the reply, Umkomaas.
I've read post 1 of the sticky but I'm a bit unsure, as the instructions for the BPA companies seem to apply for sending your appeal around day 26, which has now been exceeded. The BPA template says, 'Should you obtain the registered keeper's data from the DVLA without reasonable cause,' etc., but obviously if they send the NTK then they've already got the details from the DVLA. Once the NTK comes, he can still then ask UKPC for a POPLA code?
Another thing I don't really get is on what grounds he could reasonably appeal. He doesn't dispute the signage is there or that it's clear, he's just one of those people that walks round in his own little world and didn't notice it. He didn't use the Matalan store, he used a store a couple of doors down which doesn't have its own car park, so he can't provide proof of a purchase. I appealed a private ticket about 5 years ago by asking them to demonstrate how my parking there for a short time had caused them a loss amounting to £xxx. Is that now a no go?
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I've read post 1 of the sticky but I'm a bit unsure,....... the instructions for the BPA companies seem to apply for sending your appeal around day 26, which has now been exceeded.Should you obtain the registered keeper's data from the DVLA without reasonable cause,'Once the NTK comes, he can still then ask UKPC for a POPLA code?
This is unlikely to be sorted much before March next year.Another thing I don't really get is on what grounds he could reasonably appeal. He doesn't dispute the signage is there or that it's clear, he's just one of those people that walks round in his own little world and didn't notice it. He didn't use the Matalan store, he used a store a couple of doors down which doesn't have its own car park, so he can't provide proof of a purchase. I appealed a private ticket about 5 years ago by asking them to demonstrate how my parking there for a short time had caused them a loss amounting to £xxx. Is that now a no go?
You are correct on one point - ‘no loss’ is dead in the water.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
so you wait for the NTK to arrive , you change that wording to "Should you have obtained" and the keeper appeals it as keeper with the new amended template
simples
loss is a no go since BEAVIS
the blue text template lists the initial appeal, which is to obtain a popla code
you are no expert on signas and few signs meet the BPA CoP nor the laws of the land, and few signs are the same as the BEAVIS case
if you dont ask , you dont get
so appeal points include
NO CONTRACT
NO LANDOWNER AUTHORITY
POOR AND INADEQUATE SIGNAGE
NOT THE SAME AS BEAVIS
ANY POFA2012 ERRORS
ANY BPA COP ERRORS0 -
You/he need to go back and thoroughly read the NEWBIES again, and again, until you/he start to understand the process.
Parking scammers lie. UKPC are one of the worst and got caught doctoring time stamps on their photo' "evidence."
I will be very surprised if the UKPC signage is adequate and meets all the BPA requirements in every way. I doubt their NTK will meet the very strict requirements of the POFA 2012 either.
So, you/he needs to read, and then go through the two stage appeal process.
The initial appeal is already written out to just copy and paste, and there are loads of appeal points available in template form in the NEWBIES.
Get stuck in and stop thinking like a victim.I married my cousin. I had to...I don't have a sister.All my screwdrivers are cordless."You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks0 -
"Another thing I don't really get is on what grounds he could reasonably appeal. He doesn't dispute the signage is there or that it's clear, he's just one of those people that walks round in his own little world and didn't notice it."
so he did not see it .... can not have been that clear .....
now ... as above ... he now needs to find the other reasons as to how to appeal ... there will be 4 / 5 ..... or even more
tell him that if he caries on ignoring then he may well end up in court or ... worse .......
follow the good advice above ... ( he will not get better if he paid £££ for it )
and ...... just for you .... do not tell him yet .... let him read up .....
'leaving the site' is almost impossible for a PPC to prove / take to court ....
ready for a laugh ?
search the forum for 'toothbrush'
Ralph:cool:0 -
Thanks, all. Sending him the link to this thread.
As to why I'm posting this for him, he's tremendously academically intelligent (he has a PhD and is working towards another), but completely lacking in common sense and clueless about everyday life to the point of not knowing his right from his left!
Will tell him to await the NTK and go from there.Egg Loan - [strike]£4921.84[/strike] £0!! :j Barclaycard - £3866.47 Legal + Trade - [strike]£2700.96[/strike] £0!! :j Triton - [strike]£1730.89[/strike] £0!! :j Next - [STRIKE]£776.15[/STRIKE] £126.88 Littlewoods - [strike]£217.16[/strike] £0!! :j Housemate - [strike]£1300[/strike] £0!! :j Capital One - [STRIKE]£1652.51[/STRIKE] £1,081.58 Vanquis - [strike]£2337.75[/strike] £375.58
A Payment A Day - £379.02 to Egg.0 -
Egg Loan - [strike]£4921.84[/strike] £0!! :j Barclaycard - £3866.47 Legal + Trade - [strike]£2700.96[/strike] £0!! :j Triton - [strike]£1730.89[/strike] £0!! :j Next - [STRIKE]£776.15[/STRIKE] £126.88 Littlewoods - [strike]£217.16[/strike] £0!! :j Housemate - [strike]£1300[/strike] £0!! :j Capital One - [STRIKE]£1652.51[/STRIKE] £1,081.58 Vanquis - [strike]£2337.75[/strike] £375.58
A Payment A Day - £379.02 to Egg.0
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