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    • snickpan
    • By snickpan 1st Dec 17, 10:31 AM
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    2 or 3 storey?
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    • 1st Dec 17, 10:31 AM
    2 or 3 storey? 1st Dec 17 at 10:31 AM
    1930s semi, ground floor, first floor, room in roof....is it a 3 storey house?
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    • Lokolo
    • By Lokolo 1st Dec 17, 10:31 AM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 10:31 AM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 10:31 AM
    imo 2 story with converted loft.
    • davidmcn
    • By davidmcn 1st Dec 17, 11:03 AM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 11:03 AM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 11:03 AM
    Or 2.5 storey.


    I don't think it has any real significance though.
    • hazyjo
    • By hazyjo 1st Dec 17, 11:03 AM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 11:03 AM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 11:03 AM
    It certainly wouldn't become a 'townhouse' (as 3+ storey houses are generally known).
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    • G_M
    • By G_M 1st Dec 17, 11:26 AM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 11:26 AM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 11:26 AM
    By who's definition?

    If this is an insurance question, ask the insurer how they would want it defined!
    • seashore22
    • By seashore22 1st Dec 17, 11:29 AM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 11:29 AM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 11:29 AM
    A family member owns a 2 story house with a properly done loft conversion. It has added 2 large bedrooms and a shower room. It definitely feels like a 3 storey when you are in it, but looks like a 2 floor semi from the front.

    Why do you want to know? Your marketing?

    When marketing the house I mentioned I wouldn't use the number of storeys in the title. It would be a 5 bed semi and the configuration of floors would be clear in the description and floorplan. I suppose it could be described as being "on 3 floors".
    Last edited by seashore22; 01-12-2017 at 11:55 AM.
    • seashore22
    • By seashore22 1st Dec 17, 11:32 AM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 11:32 AM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 11:32 AM
    I think it does depend on how this conversion was done. It would be a stretch to call a basic room in the loft another floor. Proper stairs? Building regs approval?
    Last edited by seashore22; 01-12-2017 at 11:55 AM.
    • snickpan
    • By snickpan 1st Dec 17, 3:57 PM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 3:57 PM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 3:57 PM
    I'm a live-in landlord, wondering if the HMO needs a licence or not!
    • GDB2222
    • By GDB2222 1st Dec 17, 3:58 PM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 3:58 PM
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    • 1st Dec 17, 3:58 PM
    I'm a live-in landlord, wondering if the HMO needs a licence or not!
    Originally posted by snickpan
    3 storeys, obviously.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
    • snickpan
    • By snickpan 2nd Dec 17, 1:16 AM
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    the perfect thread, each reply with a different vote!
    • 00ec25
    • By 00ec25 2nd Dec 17, 3:16 AM
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    the perfect thread, each reply with a different vote!
    Originally posted by snickpan
    because you drip fed info and changed the whole significance of the thread by NOW stating you are in reality asking about HMO licensing - a rather specific topic compared to your totally vague 2 or 3 storeys (stories?) initial question

    mind you it is still impossible to answer your question until you drip feed more info....

    a) total number of bedrooms (incl the loft "conversion")

    b) number of households (or in simpler terms occupants incl you)

    c) rules imposed by YOUR council regarding selective licensing

    you could of course have looked this up yourself using google (or is that too easy?)

    https://www.gov.uk/house-in-multiple-occupation-licence
    Last edited by 00ec25; 02-12-2017 at 3:19 AM.
    • snickpan
    • By snickpan 2nd Dec 17, 8:32 AM
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    followed by a perfect internet answer
    • DaftyDuck
    • By DaftyDuck 2nd Dec 17, 9:20 AM
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    Two stories ... Two storey from the first story, most definitely three storeys from the second!
    • GDB2222
    • By GDB2222 2nd Dec 17, 10:21 AM
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    followed by a perfect internet answer
    Originally posted by snickpan
    Clearly, youíre going to need to look up the detailed rules, but I think itís virtually certain from the nuggets of information that you have provided that you have three floors of habitable building.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
    • dimbo61
    • By dimbo61 2nd Dec 17, 10:27 AM
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    Right Muppet and that is your name MUPPET.
    As soon as you talk about being a Landlord and three storey property you are in a whole different world when it comes to renting out rooms in a property with three floors.
    A mains wired smoke alarm with a panel showing where the alarm ( smoke FIRE !) is.
    Which floor/room.
    Fire doors, turn lock escape doors and windows ! Fire extinguishers, smoke blankets , size of bedrooms.
    HMO licence and check by your local council.
    Selective licensing as you maybe refused permission to rent out the rooms FULL STOP.
    Total Muppet
    • 00ec25
    • By 00ec25 2nd Dec 17, 10:41 AM
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    followed by a perfect internet answer
    Originally posted by snickpan
    perfect internet thread

    - vague initial question with irrelevant info
    - follow up comment finally provides relevant context for the real question wanted in the first place after initial responses have wasted everyone's time
    - answer easily found by own efforts as the question is simply one of facts, not understanding
    - but so much easier not to make any effort or to answer questions that would provide specific answers, instead wait to be spoon fed
    - gets spoon fed, fails to provide follow up info that would tailor the feeding to the actual context and thus be the "right" answer
    - feels hard done by and picks on the respondees instead
    Last edited by 00ec25; 02-12-2017 at 12:28 PM.
    • seashore22
    • By seashore22 2nd Dec 17, 11:06 AM
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    perfect internet thread

    - vague initial question with irrelevant info
    - follow up comment actually asks the question wanted in the first place after initial responses have wasted everyone's time
    - answer easily found by own efforts as the question is simply one of facts, not understanding
    - so much easier not to make any effort as that would require thought, instead wait to be spoon fed
    - gets spoon fed and feels hard done by
    Originally posted by 00ec25
    Or it was a wind up all along.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 2nd Dec 17, 4:57 PM
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    Simple rule of thumb for this type of question...

    If you need to know for some specific requirement, then ask the people judging the requirement. Or, at the very minimum, tell us what the requirement is.

    If not for a specific requirement, and it's only for your own personal interest, then go with whatever answer makes you happy...
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