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Euro Car Parks PCN

robrymond
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edited 17 September 2017 at 11:05AM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
I've posted on an existing thread about this, but someone I know has received a Euro Car Parks PCN from 'The Waterfront' in Walsall for not displaying a valid ticket.

They were unaware of any parking charges upon entering the site and hence they didn't pay. Usually these sites are camera active but with a 'free stay period' (they certainly are in Stoke for example where Euro car parks have ownership).




The only flaw in the letter I can see is the date and time of the alleged entry and exit which isn't super-imposed on the image.

I realise how difficult contesting these things are now, I personally have been successful in the past but there seems to have been a great amount of changes in recent years.

They also don't want to cough up the £100 so the £60 is more tempting. Again it isn't ideal but there is quite a difference between paying £60 now or loosing and paying £100.

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 159,145 Forumite
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    I would wait for the reminder in 2 weeks' time, because that's the document ECP call a 'Notice to Keeper' and they misstate the 'date of issue' on it. You want that letter.

    If they lose, they don't actually PAY £100! So what if they lose?!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • Coupon-mad wrote: »
    I would wait for the reminder in 2 weeks' time, because that's the document ECP call a 'Notice to Keeper' and they misstate the 'date of issue' on it. You want that letter.

    If they lose, they don't actually PAY £100! So what if they lose?!

    So this is a given problem with them? Surely they will fix this issue if they keep loosing appeals, doesn't make sense?
  • KeithP
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    Robrymond, blank out the precise times on that pic of your PCN.

    That is enough to uniquely identify your incident.
  • Coupon-mad
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    robrymond wrote: »
    So this is a given problem with them? Surely they will fix this issue if they keep loosing appeals, doesn't make sense?

    They fixed it in the first letter - that had a flaw from March till June this year, some numpty in their offices thought the 'date issued' was the date of parking event, for a while. But recently, I've noticed that they haven't fixed it in the second letter.

    What makes you think they keep losing appeals? What % of appeals do you reckon are from people on forums? We/you are a rare bunch, and so I doubt that they 'keep losing'. No doubt most appeals are from numpties writing about what happened.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • Coupon-mad wrote: »
    What makes you think they keep losing appeals? What % of appeals do you reckon are from people on forums? We/you are a rare bunch, and so I doubt that they 'keep losing'. No doubt most appeals are from numpties writing about what happened.

    Just reading around it seems much harder to get a successful appeal from POPLA than it used to be.
  • Coupon-mad
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    Not that I've noticed. Very few threads about a lost POPLA appeal are from those we've helped them write.
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  • Coupon-mad wrote: »
    I would wait for the reminder in 2 weeks' time, because that's the document ECP call a 'Notice to Keeper' and they misstate the 'date of issue' on it. You want that letter.

    If they lose, they don't actually PAY £100! So what if they lose?!

    Do they wait for the 2 weeks and THEN contact Euro Car Parks after the second letter or acknowledge it now and then use the second invoice as evidence to POPLA?
  • Coupon-mad
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    Wait.

    There is always 28 days to appeal from the first letter, so the second one will arrive in good time.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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