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    • Gers
    • By Gers 3rd Sep 17, 1:31 PM
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    Trellis advice please
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    • 3rd Sep 17, 1:31 PM
    Trellis advice please 3rd Sep 17 at 1:31 PM
    My lovely clematis is sprawling itself all over the back garden wall and I'm running out of old ivy stems for it to attach to.

    My internet searching for a suitable trellis has me boggle-eyed so I'm hoping for some advice here.

    Given that the weather here is mostly wet, the flimsy ones which are pinned together seem to me to not be robust enough. The robust ones are mostly fairly small and expensive. The wall is an old stone one held together with some form of mortar, some of which is hard and some of which is crumbly.

    I'd be grateful for some trellis suggestions please.
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    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 4th Sep 17, 7:28 AM
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    I'd make them myself out of roofing battens, which any builders' merchant will deliver. Then I could do my own design, setting the spacing how I wanted it. Once this is decided and a couple of spacer pieces have been made, it's a doddle. Careful maths will mean less wastage, of course.

    Battens can be nailed at crossing points using galvanised plasterboard nails, but always drill first to avoid splits....or you can be posh and use stainless steel screws.

    Failing that, I always recommend Jacksons fencing for stuff like this, but they won't be cheap!

    https://www.jacksons-fencing.co.uk/
    If you are finding huge gaps between your paragraphs, MSE know about the problem. However, they aren't necessarily doing anything about it. More changes on the way?
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5844460
    • Waterlily24
    • By Waterlily24 4th Sep 17, 12:01 PM
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    • 4th Sep 17, 12:01 PM
    My hubby uses something like this.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MYDNNYL/ref=asc_df_B01MYDNNYL45674901/?!!!!!pebble.co.uk-21&creative=22374&creativeASIN=B01MYDNNYL& amp;linkCode=df0&ascsub!!!!!6928a6241a58-431b-b4f5-f7f2d781dfb2

    Not trellis I know but quite hardwearing.
    • Grenage
    • By Grenage 4th Sep 17, 12:57 PM
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    • 4th Sep 17, 12:57 PM
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    • 4th Sep 17, 12:57 PM
    There's also galvanised steel wire, which I tend to use on walls.
    • Gers
    • By Gers 5th Sep 17, 7:21 PM
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    • 5th Sep 17, 7:21 PM
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    • 5th Sep 17, 7:21 PM
    There's also galvanised steel wire, which I tend to use on walls.
    Originally posted by Grenage
    I've plumped for this way, the wire will be almost invisible against the wall. I know it'll be fiddly to put up but I like it best.

    Many thanks.
    • Apodemus
    • By Apodemus 5th Sep 17, 9:20 PM
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    I've plumped for this way, the wire will be almost invisible against the wall. I know it'll be fiddly to put up but I like it best.

    Many thanks.
    Originally posted by Gers
    That's also the approach I have used on an old wall for a couple of espalliered apple trees. I've used 3 or 4 inch decking screws which self-tap into the mortar between the stones and wire wound between the screws. Much easier and cheaper than building trellis. Might be different if the old wall has been re-pointed in cement but I had re-pointed mine in lime mortar before adding the apple trees.
    • Gers
    • By Gers 6th Sep 17, 7:17 AM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 7:17 AM
    I've ordered wall staples as the mortar varies between being rock hard and crumbling. It's a very old stone wall and I've no idea about the pointing material. I've got good old fashioned nails too in case the staples don't go it.

    It doesn't need to be pretty as the clematis will, hopefully, cover it. The plant was so happy agsinst the old ivy stems, happy enough to outgrow it all. And then the builders had to pull some down when they installed the new guttering recently!
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 6th Sep 17, 8:13 AM
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    There's trellis and there's climbing supports of different kinds.

    In this case I agree that a wire latticework will be superior and quicker to put up.
    If you are finding huge gaps between your paragraphs, MSE know about the problem. However, they aren't necessarily doing anything about it. More changes on the way?
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5844460
    • Gers
    • By Gers 6th Sep 17, 8:47 AM
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    There's trellis and there's climbing supports of different kinds.

    In this case I agree that a wire latticework will be superior and quicker to put up.
    Originally posted by Davesnave
    Thanks - as a non-gardener, still, I often don't know the correct name for stuff. As I looked at trellis' I realised that it was the wrong thing, but didn't know what the right one was until Grenage mentioned it.
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