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    • LucianH
    • By LucianH 29th May 17, 12:57 PM
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    12v ES LED Bulbs and Garden Lights
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    • 29th May 17, 12:57 PM
    12v ES LED Bulbs and Garden Lights 29th May 17 at 12:57 PM
    I'm working on a low voltage lighting installation for our garden and would welcome some advice. Specifically, we're looking for lights to light up a patio area. It's an area of about 6m square and we're thinking of using 4 wall lights (two each along two sides of the patio) and a couple of post lights along another side.

    I've come across two suppliers - Techma and Lumena.

    One thing that concerns me is how bright some of the lights will be. For example, the Techmar products all seem to be low wattage LEDs (between 1 and 2 watts). From what I can gather, these are only equivalent to less than 15W conventional bulbs.

    Within the Lumina product range, however, they do ES/E27 fitting 12V AC or DC bulbs up to 7W which should give out light equivalent to 50W conventional bulb.

    So I have two specific queries:

    1) Have I got my "brightness" equivalent calculations above correct? And if anybody has got Techma 1 or 2 watt lights, are you happy with the brightness?

    2) The Lumina ES/E27 12 LED's look a very attractive proposition which will enable us to use conventional garden lights fitted with ES sockets. However, these do seem to be quite a specialist product and it would concern me that we're choosing a solution that appears to be almost single source and may be a short term niche product. Does anybody know of similar higher wattage 12v ES/E27 bulbs from other well known brands?

    Last edited by LucianH; 08-10-2017 at 11:21 AM.
    Never let it get you down... unless it really is as bad as it seems.
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    • LucianH
    • By LucianH 8th Oct 17, 11:24 AM
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    • 8th Oct 17, 11:24 AM
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    • 8th Oct 17, 11:24 AM
    I posted this some time ago and I apologise for bumping it but I didn't have any replies.

    Our planned landscaping works were delayed but are now soon to start and I really hope that someone can help out with advice and recommendations on 12v lighting as details in the original post.
    Never let it get you down... unless it really is as bad as it seems.
    • TheCyclingProgrammer
    • By TheCyclingProgrammer 8th Oct 17, 1:32 PM
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    • 8th Oct 17, 1:32 PM
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    • 8th Oct 17, 1:32 PM
    Im just about to buy a set of Technar post and spike lights so will report back.
    • Jonesya
    • By Jonesya 8th Oct 17, 3:29 PM
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    • 8th Oct 17, 3:29 PM
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    • 8th Oct 17, 3:29 PM
    One suggestion, could you use a fitting that takes standard 12v halogen lamps and then fit LEDs? So using a standard 12v lamp, rather than an unusual 12v E27 lamp?

    For example MR16 spots- there's loads of LED MR16 lamps available up to 7w or more and they're quite cheap.

    Or G4 12v LEDs, these tend to be less powerful at a few watts each so would need a fitting with multiple lamps or more fittings, but again they're a very common fitting so readily available and cheap.

    The fittings might come with power supplies so you'd need to remove these and wire directly to lamp holder, with a local 12v fuse.

    Edit - one further option is to use a converter, they're readily available on EBay, to fit a 12v type bulb into an E27 fitting. Either a regular lighting bulb like a G4 or something like an standard automotive 12v bulb. You do need to think about the safety issues in case a family member were to ever fit this into a 240v e27 fitting, but the same probably applies to the 12v e27 lamps.
    Last edited by Jonesya; 08-10-2017 at 4:10 PM.
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